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This X just closes out of the tab that is on top.

 

CVI window.PNG

 

Pretty much every other program with tabs has the X on the tab you’re closing out of. The current placement makes me hesitate every time, because it feels like you’re X-ing out of the entire code-viewing pane, not just the single file you want to close.

 

It’s also not consistent with the rest of the environment.

For example, in the pane on the bottom in the screenshot above, “Threads” and “Wa tch” look like two tabs, but clicking the X in that pane causes the entire pane to disappear rather than just closing the tab that is on top.

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NI is not a C/C++ Editor-Debugger company.  And, it will never be able to invest the man power needed to get there.  NIs strengths are its Instrument UIs, its libraries, and it's visual application UI pieces.  The LabWindows/CVI tool looks and feels like tools from the mid 90's (ie.  like an old Borland C editor, but even less featured).  It lacks the toolset found in VisualStudios, NetBeans, and Eclipse.  And, it will always be behind.

 

The Verigy93k tester was like this several years ago.  They wrote their own C/C++ editor, and it was at a mid 80's level.  When a team was asked to rewrite the UI and bring it up to date, they made a novel choice (they recognized that they were not a UI platform / editor company), and they moved their product under Eclipse.  Teradyne Flex did something similar a year or two later moving under Excel and Visual Studio.  The thing is this, both companies realized that they could make more money focusing on their real strength.  They added libraries and apis to work in the platforms framework, and changed/adapted the platform framework to work for them.  ie. Teradynes Flex test tool does not say "Excel/Visual Studio", it says it is a Teradyne product based on MS Excel and VS.  And, they have adapted the platform to their needs adding on the extra Windows/UIs/... to meet their needs.  Same with the Verigy 93K.

 

In Teradynes case, they went back to the drawing board.  So, we will ignore this (even with their success).  In Verigys case, all their existing APIs worked in the new platform, and the user didn't need to change anything when they upgraded.  But, suddenly the Editor and Debugger were up to date, with latest greatest features.  It was a huge change overnight.

 

LabWindows really should make a shift to Eclipse.  Keep your old legacy stuff at first, but working under Eclipse.  Add in "Views" and "Tools" to supplement what Eclipse doesn't give you for free.  And, remove unwanted or confusing plugins from the eclipse base.  (This is what advantest did.)  Leave in features that make Eclipse great, like error view, and the ability to have several "perspectives".  And really focus the man power into making a product that will blow the others out of the water.  NI has what it takes to make great Instrument editing/debugging windows in Eclipse.  But, NI doesn't have the 1,000's of people and millions of man hours required to make an Editor/Debugger that will compare to the Eclipses/VisualStudios of the world.  As a business they should focus on what will make them a differentiator, and reuse what is accepted and common.

 

Anyway.  My 2 cents on how you could really improve LabWindows in a few short months.  (Note: Verigy spent all of 9 months and 9 engineers on their C/C++ integration into eclipse...  I know... I was there at the time.)  If you took the LabWindows team, and a year or two...  Imagine how much better of a job you could do.

  • User Interface

Hi,

 

there has been the valuable suggestion of a "Picture and Text" button allowing more modern buttons.

 

For all those focusing on programming instead of UI design it would be also nice if CVI could provide more default buttons ready to use as some examples shown in the image below (taken from the NI community).

 

As they seem to be already available in LabVIEW it shouldn't be much effort for NI to adapt them to CVI... - hopefully Smiley Wink

 

 

buttons.jpg 

A useful CVI GUI tool would be the addition of sideways tree-style tab control.  I am surprised to see no mention of it in the forums.  Is there already some solution for it, or perhaps some Active-X that can do it?    Nevertheless, it would greatly modernize the GUI arsenal.

  • User Interface

Summary:

Display more struct member information during source editing and during debug.

 

Description:

While editing source code, CVI only displays the struct members, but no information regarding the type of the member (or declaration information, line file and line).

Add a tooltip to the right of the pop-up displaying the struct members in the source editor to display this information. Similar to this picture:

struct.jpg

Also add support for displaying nested structs and even display the member values while debugging, in form of a tree, when execution is suspended (CVI currently only displays the memory address of that struct variable).

 

At present, autoscaling works with respect to the full provided data set, i.e. if all data are shown on the graph.

 

If say the X axis is set to manual scaling such that only a subset of all data is plotted, autoscaling of the Y axis still considers all data even if they are not shown, see the discussion here.

 

Hence it is suggested to provide an additional auto scaling mode which considers only the data actually visible on the graph, say VAL_AUTOSCALE_VISIBLE_DATA, complementing the current VAL_AUTOSCALE which actually is a VAL_AUTOSCALE_ALL_DATA

I want to be able to do the following:

 

  1. Right-click on a control on my user interface and select “Add Event Case to Control Callback” (if a callback function already exists)
  2. CVI brings up a dialog similar to what you see at Code>>Preferences>>Default Events to select an event for that control
  3. Check the box for one or more events for that control, click OK, then
  4. Have CVI find the existing control callback function and add a case to the switch statement for each event I checked

If you haven’t written any code in the callback already, you can just change the default events and re-generate (replace) the control callback.

 

However, if you have already written code for one event case, the only way I can find to add an event case is to do it manually. I go to Code>>Preferences>>Default Events or use the Operate tool to look for the constant name of the event that I am interested in, then I go back to my code and manually type out “case EVENT_CONSTANT_NAME: break;” with the name of the event and hope I remember it correctly and spell it right.

 

CVI is all about minimizing user errors and reducing development time by, you know, not making you type things out yourself, so I think this functionality would be a useful addition.

We have recently dropped CVI (as of 2009) as an option for use with our many data visualization applications.  The graphic performance is just too slow and clunky to put up with any longer and gets worse as we add features or try to make 'native looking' applications (that resize, animate, etc).  

 

Things like dragging/updating cursors is noticably clunky when you have more than one graph updating (linked cursors across more than one graph).  

 

Updating datasets in large tables is slow enough to watch it step through the rows.  Even using suggest tips like using ATTR_CTRL_VAL instead of SetTableCellVal, when a large table has to update... it's painfully noticeable. Basically any operation that updates a large portion of the UI.

 

Another example, try to resize and move controls (as most other applications do) on the EVENT_PANEL_SIZING?

 

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that CVI doesn't use any graphics card acceleration? since workstation or netbook doesn't seem to make much difference in graphic performance.  

 

Our clients notice when our applications look 'clunky' and 'slow' when compared to smooth, responsive apps/interfaces from competitors.  It's often the little things that make a big difference in appearance.


Greg

 

Hi,

 

The CVI runtime engine calls the Windows API function SetProcessDPIAware() that tells Windows that the application is DPI aware in Windows Vista and later.  This seems to be forced upon all applications built with CVI, whether they are actually DPI aware or not.  Most applications built in CVI using the default tools are not going to be DPI aware out of the box, and setting Windows to another DPI setting than what the programmer used to create the UI will cause many graphical glitches and possibly make the application unusable.  The purpose of this request is to suggest to NI that the CVI Runtime Engine not call SetProcessDPIAware() so that the programmer can handle (or not handle) DPI scaling as they see fit.  If the programmer does nothing, the application will then, by default, be scaled using Windows DPI Virtualization.  This is not optimal, but it would leave the application usable and looking like how the programmer intended.

 

This is per this discussion here:

http://forums.ni.com/t5/LabWindows-CVI/Forcing-DPI-Virtualization/td-p/3079742

 

Thanks.

Following this idea already implemented, it could be good to add up/down keys to rows and columns selectors.

 

At present, if the table is in hot or normal mode you can click on a cell in the table preview in the Quick Edit window to select the corresponding row/column: going to editing them is made easy this way. However, if the table is in indicator mode you cannot click on the cella to select row and column. The same applies if you want to reach a column/row out of visible area of the table: the only solution to that is to double click on the column or row selector and type in the number you want. Not easy  nor fast, and prone to errors. Much better to click on a button and increment / decrement the active column index

 

I'm thinking to something like that:

TableRowColSelectors.png

Right now it is possible to set the color, and since CVI 2013 also the line style, of all grid lines collectively.

 

I would like to distinguish between major grid lines and minor grid lines, e.g., draw major grid lines with dashed lines / light grey, and minor grid lines with dotted lines / dark grey.

 

Thanks!

 

 

  • User Interface

In CVI there are two kind of buttons:

  • the classic text button (i.e. a button with a text where you can't insert an image)
  • the picture button (i.e. a button with an image where you can't add a text)

But if you try to design a modern interface (like the MS Outlook 2010 ribbon, for example) you need a button where you can have both

  • an image statically or dynamically  loaded from file)
  • a text string localized through the UIR localizer

Even in the new CVI 2010 SP1 there isn't a convenient workaround (see here, for example).

In LabVIEW, otherwise, this kind of buttons can be easily created.

 

An interesting feature would be also a setting to set the text position referred to the picture (top, bottom, left, right).

  • User Interface

Customer who has used CVI for years and likes it was looking a Mstudio for the reason that a lot of his new engineers can't or don't do the regular C programming.  He likes Mstudio as an idea but, with the extra cost of adding MS Visual Studio and dealing with a they support/We support issues of having two SW pkg from 2 different companies gives him pause about purchasing.  He stated he likes CVI because if there is an issue (even if rare) he know that NI will help to figure it out. I let him know I'd provide the feedback.

  • User Interface

Summary:

Data Tooltip should also display the name of the function, when displaying the value of a function pointer variable.

 

Description:

While debugging a CVI application, when hovering the mouse cursor over a function pointer variable, the Data Tooltip displays the address of that function, referenced by the variable.

It would be very useful in cases when you have multiple function pointer variables referencing several different variables, to have the Data Tooltip not only display the address of those functions, but the name of the functions as well.

 

Data Tooltip With Function Pointer

 

  • User Interface

This issue is that old that we all forgot about it... Smiley Wink

 

But this thread brought it back to my attention and I'd like to suggest two improvements:

 

Setting the width or the height of a control does not always succeed because there are limitations concerning the minimum and maximum size.

 

Suggestion 1:

 

If a function fails it should return a warning. However, calling e.g. status = SetCtrlAttribute ( panel_handle, PANEL_RING, ATTR_WIDTH, 5 ) returns success (0) even though the width of the ring control will be much larger than 5 pixels. For checkboxes, the situation is even worse because checkboxes are drawn right aligned to a transparent rectangular frame. So calling status = SetCtrlAttribute ( panel_handle, PANEL_CHECKBOX, ATTR_WIDTH, 500 ) will result in a transparent drawing rectangle of width of 500 but with the checkbox size remaining at the default size. Since the checkbox is drawn right aligned to this transparent frame the checkbox eventually may disappear from the panel (setting the width to say 10000 will not draw anything).

 

Suggestion 2:

 

Complement the documentation, the idea is given below:

 

Constant: ATTR_WIDTH
Data Type: int
Description:  The width of the control body in pixels.
Valid Range: 0 to 32767
Control Type Restrictions: Not valid for controls of type CTRL_VERTICAL_SPLITTER and CTRL_VERTICAL_SPLITTER_LS

For checkboxes, the minimum size is ... pixels, and the maximum size is ... pixels.

For ring controls, the minimum size is ... pixels.

...
LabWindows/CVI Compatibility: LabWindows/CVI 3.0 and later

Control Types:  All

When operating graphs in Labview, it is easy to change the scale of an axis of a graph (at runtime): to change e.g. the maximum value, you select the current maximum value with your mouse, type in the maximum number you want and hit enter. To achieve the same in Labwindows, you have to use a numeric control and a button, which is a bit cumbersome. The same applies for zooming: In Labview, you can click a small button attached to the graph and select the way you want to zoom, and then just use the mouse. In Labwindows, you have to know that zooming is done using the ctrl button, ctrl+space restores the previous setting, etc. It would also be nice to be able to enable autoscale by right-clicking on an axis and having a popup menu which allows to do so (just like in Labview). And if the user changes e.g. the maximum value while autoscale is enabled, it would be nice to automatically disable autoscale (unlike in Labview).

 

So in general, it would be nice to have more comfort in operating graph controls.

 

Thanks.

Summary:

Improve the Breakpoints Window, so that breakpoints can be more easily managed.


Description:

1. Change the Breakpoints Window, from a modal dialog to a dockable window (similar to the Watch Window). Debugging can be more easy this way.

2. Allow breakpoints to be grouped, disabled/enabled and edited in user defined categories. This allows users to easily collectively manage several breakpoints at a time. It also helps the user to logically group breakpoints, depending on various issues issues that he might be working on.

3. Breakpoints could also be sorted from a pop-up menu by filename, line, hit count, etc.

 

Breakpoints Window

I know we used to have this web server feature 6-7 years ago.

I would request a function where we can export designated panel which user can control from web. Also provides an option to have read only or read/write access. Also password options.

 

Something like this.

 

ExportPanelToWebServer (panelHandle, READ_ONLY_FLAG, PASSWORD_FLAG, PASSWORD);

//This starts web server automatically and ready for connection on port 80.

 

This opens door to lots of applications which requires web control. I think LabVIEW has similar feature. (Web publishing tool)

we are daily dealing with "constant name" field's values that canNOT exceed 21 characters due to restriction on labwindows/CVI.

even the latest CVI/2009 SP1 v9.1.1 (450) has this restriction.

 

this is very tedious because our software makes use of this value to make cross searches in the registers' table of our component.

as such, if the "constant name" field's value must be trimmed down to <=21 chars to comply with CVI restriction above, this makes the cross-search unusable.

 

please increase this limit up to 32 chars (at least).

 

Pascal Janin

STMicro Grenoble France.

  • User Interface

Hello,

 

imho the nice tool tips feature provided by the Programmer's Toolbox leads a miserable existence, because it is extra effort integrating it into a GUI.

 

I would love to see the tool tips integrated into the IDE, that is, when editing a control in the GUI editor, I would like to be able to also set the tool tips text and if it is initially enabled, just like it is possible to enter a control label text. This would include moving the tool tips from the Toolbox to the regular user interface library.

 

Many Thanks!