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In instances of nested expressions, it would be useful to be able to press tab to indent a line. I propose inserting "n" spaces when pressing tab.

 

Coding style of course varies, but for readability, I rather dislike the following

 

Trim(Locals.SomeLocal) == "" ? (Locals.SomeLocal = "foo",Locals.AnotherLocal = "bar", Locals.SomethingOrRather = "zoo") : False

 ...and much prefer this styling:

 

Trim(Locals.SomeLocal) == "" ? (
                Locals.SomeLocal = "foo",
                Locals.AnotherLocal = "bar",
                Locals.SomethingOrRather = "zoo" ) : False

...but at present the latter is tedious because one has to insert a lot of whitespace manually or worse yet, use another text editor and paste it into TestStand. It would be nice if TestStand's expression editor supported this basic feature available in almost every text editor or IDE.

 

Thanks,

 

Mr. Jim

 

 

 

Forgive me for the cavalcade of suggestions this week...

 

One of my favorite options in the LabVIEW development environment is the "Find all Instances" context menu option, whereby one is able to locate all calls to the particular SubVI.

 

I have long wished that something similar were available in the TestStand Sequence Editor. I'd like to propose a "Find All Sequence Calls" context menu selection when right-clicking on a sequence in the Sequence pane. This could leverage the Find tool, but save the user from copying and pasting the name of the sequence. (And save the user from configuring the search options to narrow down the results) It'd be nice to be able to define the scope of the "find" operation to either the selected sequence or all sequences in memory, but I'd settle for a simple search of the open sequence.

 

Cheers,

 

Mr. Jim

 

FindAllSequenceCalls.png

 

 

Hi all,

 

There are times, for instance, when I am paused at a breakpoint and I want to copy the full name expression of some deeply nested variable that only appears at runtime.

 

I wish there was an option on the context menu that would allow me to copy the full path of some variable.

 

For instance, in the following illustration I want to be able to copy the string

"Parameters.ModelPluginConfiguration.Plugins[0].PluginSpecific.RuntimeVariables.PerSocket[0]"

I've added a context menu option called "Copy Path", but maybe that's the wrong nomenclature.

 

Am I ignorant of some functionality that already does this? (Besides typing it in the watch window?)

 

Thanks as usual,

 

Mr. Jim

 

CopyVariablePath.png

 

When TestStand launches, it determines the active LabVIEW version and copies the TestStand API VIs into <LabVIEW>\vi.lib\AddOns if not already present. (SOURCE)

 

I suggest there should be an additional step here and TestStand should call that LabVIEW version to mass compile these VIs.


Currently, the VI version remains unchanged which means when you open a LabVIEW code module which uses these, you'll sometimes find you have a 'dirty dot' due to unsaved changes because of the recompilation. It also means that you wouldn't be able to run a sequence using the LabVIEW Run-Time Engine until you've switched to Development and converted the VIs.

This is a minor annoyance but it would be nice if TestStand could cut out the additional version conversion step.

 

I do wonder whether the transfer of the TestStand API VIs into the vi.lib could actually occur when LabVIEW is installed if a TestStand installation is detected. Perhaps this might be relevant for other addons which existing LabVIEW installations have.

It's a relatively minor gripe, but wouldn't it be nice to be able to center justify a message in the MessagePopup step type?

 

Step.MsgFontData.Justify

...is strangely missing.  It could be an integer as in LabVIEW:

0 = Left

1 = Center

2 = Right

 

Yeah, I know it's easy to write code to produce a custom dialog, but it seems simple enough that it should be there natively.

 

Thanks as always,

Mr. Jim

(This idea was created as response to this discussion board topic: https://forums.ni.com/t5/NI-TestStand/ExpandPathMacros-FindFile/m-p/3767542#M56811)

 

The commands "Engine.FindFile", "Engine.FindPath" and "Engine.ExpandPathMacros" only support one macro:

$(Platform)

but there are other generic paths that could be helpful e.g. when trying to call a third-party .dll (that's my main usecase) or write a logfile:

-------

$(commonprogramfiles) - The actual folder name varies depending on Windows language settings and bitness. No absolute paths possible but a lot third-party .dlls are here.

$(temp)

$(localappdata)

$(appdata)

$(user)

$(public)

$(MyData) - The actual folder name varies depending on current user and Windows language settings

 

It hopefully shouldn't be too hard to access the windows functions which get the actual names via macros.

The concept of TestStand Environments was introduced in TestStand 2016 and allows you to define multiple configurations on a single test station or development PC. It would be nice if there was an option to link a sequence file to a specific environment, similar to how you can set a sequence file to "Require Specific Model" In the Advanced tab of the Sequence File Properties. When a sequence file is loaded, the engine could check to see if the required environment matches the current environment and:

  • Automatically relaunch the app in the correct environment
  • Generate an error
  • Prompt the user for an action
  • Other??

It would be nice to choose the behavior when a required environment doesn't match.

 

If anyone has other thoughts or use cases, please share below.

-Trent

Hi all,

When I'm in the depths of the TestStand API, I like the feature whereby the PropertyValueTypes show up in a nice little menu. (See below)

...but when I'm selecting PropertyOption constants I have the reference open all day long and I have to look periodically.

 

Would the NI developers mind adding this menu feature for PropertyOption constants as well?

 

Thank you,

 

Mr. Jim

 

PropValTypes.png

 

 

right now with TestStand Sequence Analyzer utility, it is limited to analyzing a whole sequence file at once (or as much of it as you analyze before you hit the stop button).

However, if I have a long sequence file this can take quite a while, and I don't really want to wait.

Add a feature where I can select areas to analyze and have sequence analyzer just analyze those areas (for example -- select a few (sub)sequences in my sequence file, or a few steps within a sequence).  This way I can limit the area of my analysis to where I know I made changes (or where I know my biggest problems are) and focus on those and not waste time analyzing everything else. 

I would recommend adding a "Right-Click" option for analyzing a "subseuqence" within a main sequence.

Many developers develop a Main Sequence with many Sequences in the Sequences window. Currently it's not possible to select "one" or "a subset" of the sequences to run through the analyzer .

Recommend adding this option to TestStand for selecting "right-clicking" a subsequence and running the analyzer on what is selected rather than ":all " of them.

It would be nice if I could right click a variable in the variables pane and choose from the context menu "highlight steps which reference this variable" or words to that effect and then the background of each step which referenced that variable would alter.

It would be really nice if it happend just by hovering my mouse over a variable.

 

I know this can be done by using a search but it is rather clunky

The current placement creates confusion about what you’re actually closing out of when you click it. It makes me hesitate and wonder what I am about to close. 

 

If you click it when there are multiple files open, it just closes out of the tab on top. If you click it when there is only one file open, it closes out of the whole pane, including the Sequences and Variables windows.

 

TestStandX.png

 

It would eliminate any ambiguity if the X for each file were on the tab for that file and if there were a separate X for the pane, like you typically see in tabbed programs.

 

You could also just put an X next to the pin on each little window instead, like the X in the Step Settings pane and the Insertion Palette in the screenshot above. 

The Search Directories.Insert method should only insert the directory if it is not already there.

 

The Method includes an index argument, if the directory is already there, then it should move the existing directory to the requested index.

 

While we were working on the shipping examples for DQMH, we discovered that the insert method was creating duplicates every time it was called. We implemented a work around that includes a for loop to check each of the items in the search directories list to see if it is the directory we are trying to insert, if it is, we delete it. Once the for loop ends, then we insert the directory where we want it.

 

You can see a video of the issue and how we worked around it here: DQMH 3.1 Only inserts the Delacor examples directory into Search Directories once

In order to keep file clean, sequence analyzer helps in finding "potentially unused variables". To delete such variables, each warning in sequence analyzer result has to be double clicked and then delete has to be pressed to finally remove that variable.

 

In many cases with large sequence file, there could be dozens of unused variables and in a single work-space there are dozens of .seq files.

 

Is it possible to provide a button or some option to remove all unused variables from a sequence file?

Find yourself placing a Sequence Call step and trying to determine the appropriate value to enter for a numeric parameter called "Direction"?  Tired of creating sequences with numeric parameters named like the following: "Direction_0_Up_1_Down_2_Left_3_Right"?

 

The solution is to support the creation of variables with enumerated type within TestStand.  Enums could be created as custom variables and then used as wherever a self-documenting variable is required.

 

 

Enum type creation:

 24440i0A04C051A35273A4

 

 

 

As seen from a Sequence Call step to a subsequence that uses an Enum as a parameter: 

 

24442i5CDD825A78B161E5

 

The separate compiled code flag is great when using VIs and source code control.

 

However TestStand (2016 SP1) deployment utility builder does not warn if the separate complied code flag is set - This means the VI will not run with the TestStand Deployment Licence without a LabVIEW development system installed. 

 

I do think the the Deployment utility should have a checkbox to force include the compiled code in all VIs and Controls so it can be run easily with the TestStand Deployment licence and LabVIEW runtime engine. 

 

Suggested because I have pulling my hair out wondering why a VI on a deployment machine won't run. 

Turns out a type def control had separate compile code flag set!  I even wrote code to clear this flag on VIs and all subVIs - it never occurred to me to check controls!

 

Also please update the error message in TestStand:

----------------------------------------
Details:

Parameter 'UUTServiceType': -This was a bit of a clue... but the TestStand type matched when I recreated it.
Unable to load VI 'Dialog - Prompt to connect UUT.vi' with the LabVIEW Run-Time Engine version 17.0.
The version of a subVI might not match the version of the run-time engine and the Version Independent Runtime feature is disabled or a VI dependency might be missing.
Try the following steps to troubleshoot the issue:

1. Open the VI in the LabVIEW development system. If the VI is broken, fix any errors in the VI.
2. Force compile the VI by clicking the run arrow while holding the 'Ctrl' key.
3. In LabVIEW, select File >> Save All to ensure that all subVIs are saved in the same LabVIEW version.

4. Check that the separate compiled code flag is not set on the VI or its dependent subVIs and controls (typedefs) when using the LabVIEW Runtime engine. 
----------------------------------------
Error Code:

-17600; Failed to load a required step's associated module.
----------------------------------------
Location:

Step 'Prompt User to Connect UUT' of sequence 'MainSequence' in 'My testsystem.seq'
----------------------------------------

 

{edit1} I also have just realised that running the code with the LabVIEW runtime in adaptor settings worked fine on my development PC as the control's code was in my local object cache. So I was also wondering why it worked fine on my development machine and not on the deployment machine when using the LabVIEW runtime.

Therefore the Runtime adapter should have a setting  to either Disable the Runtime using the local object cache

or an option ot clear the local object cache before running the sequence. This means this issue would have been reproducable on my development machine with the LabVIEW runtime adapter. 

 

I feel this idea is almost is close to being a bug.... 

 

 

 

The settings field can easily become too long to see every active option and there's not necesarily any consistency between steps if they have differing options. What I mean by that is if you only set the "Do Not Record Result" (my favorite) option in one step, it will be on the left of the settings field. But if you now set several options on another step, the settings are not lined up so that it becomes hard to see at a quick glance which steps I forgot to not record (because TS still doesn't default to not recording steps). You have to analyze the settings line for each step.

Current settings.PNG

 

I propose something more graphical and ordered. Here's my idea of at least ordered. The text could be replaced with icons representing each setting.

Ordered settings.PNG

 

Then it would be graphical, ordered, and concise. What more can you ask for?

Why not make it possible for Teststand to generate reports in PDF format?

It would make it a lot easier to send a testreport of a specific board to people not connected to the actual tester.

 

Today we use XML but this requires the stylesheet to be present on the readers pc.

Graphs are also not showing correct unless you do a manual setup of the settings in Internet Explore.

 

PDF would make my life a lot simpler

 

/Michael

 

Do you ever write an expression in TestStand with a bunch of parenthesis () and get lost halfway through trying to figure out which pairs are open and which are closed.  Well, I do.  Every Day.  And I spend accumulated hours a week just trying to keep track of which ) goes with which (.  If I'm lucky I can look for a little red item in the expression, or click on the check expression checkbox, but when I have a 'only runtime evaluatable' expression I'm out of luck (which is rather often) ).  Some languages/editors have a parenthesis matching, where the ) your cursor is on causes the matching ( to get bold or flash.  Others start coloring each pair a different color, so it's easy to see them all.  Why can't TestStand do something like this????

TSparenthesis.png

 

I think it would be a great idea to allow the sequence adapter to expand containers like the CVI and LabVIEW adapters do when you are editing the module for the step. 

 

 

See attachment.