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Manzolli

Replace the Invert Circles in Compound Arithmetic Nodes

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The tiny circles that represents inversion of the operation in the compound arithmetic node are hard to see (http://forums.ni.com/t5/LabVIEW-Idea-Exchange/Enlarge-the-Invert-Circles/idi-p/1023748#A3241). The proposal is to get rid of the circles and invert the central part of the respectives connectors:

 

2010-01-13 compound arithmetic inversion suggestions.png

The difference between the suggestions is that in the second the corners were rounded to reduce the impact a little. I liked the first most.

André Manzolli

Mechanical Engineer
Certified LabVIEW Developer - CLD
LabVIEW Champion
Curitiba - PR - Brazil
18 Comments
PJM_Labview
Active Participant

I don't really like using colors other than the standard light yellow and black in primitives.

 

What about using the first idea while keeping the dot?

 

1-18-2010 8-11-13 AM.png

 

PJM



  


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elset191
Active Participant

I'll play too

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Tim Elsey
Certified LabVIEW Architect
silmaril
Member

I like this idea!

In case you don't like the idea of introducing additional colors, what about this:

LV_NOR_proposal.png

 

I think this is very logical for the inputs, since it uses the same symbol as the Not-primitive (there is just not enough space for the triangle).

 

I am not shure, if we should keep the circle on the inverted output, though.

The output inversion basically changes the operation from OR to NOR (or AND to NAND, XOR to NXOR), which is already reflected by the change of the operation symbol.

If this change of the operation symbol is implemented in LV, the basic primitives "Not Or", "Not And" and "Not Exclusive Or" should be changed in the same way, of course.

 

...and I was just too lazy to paint larger circles, but I think they should get at least one more pixel in each direction.

 

 

 

Dragis
Active Participant
i like silmaril's mockup with the invert symbols in the empty area available on the node itself. the inversion dots can then become an optional element from the right-click menu.
James@Home
Member

Jim,

I agree this is an area that needs improvement.

However, I agree with Darin.K that the change needs to be consistent across all boolean functions that have invertion.  The only method, IMHO, that makes sense is to enlarge the circles and possibly fill them with a different color.

 

invert.png

LabVIEW 5.0 seems so long ago...
James@Home
Member

Jim,

 

I'm way late on this feedback, but I agree this is an area that needs improvement.

However, I agree with Darin.K that the change needs to be consistent across all boolean functions that have invertion.  The only method, IMHO, that makes sense is to enlarge the circles and possibly fill them with a different color.

 

invert.png

LabVIEW 5.0 seems so long ago...
TomOrr0W
Member

Looking at the comments on this idea, I ended up searching invert, negate, bubble, and circle (skipping anything that was already marked duplicate).  I figured I might as well link the related ideas.

 

Strongly Related:

https://forums.ni.com/t5/LabVIEW-Idea-Exchange/Enlarge-the-Invert-Circles/idi-p/1023748

https://forums.ni.com/t5/LabVIEW-Idea-Exchange/Compound-Arithmetic-with-inverted-input-should-be-eas...

 

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TomOrr0W
Member

Looking at the comments on this idea, I ended up searching invert, negate, bubble, and circle (skipping anything that was already marked duplicate).  I figured I might as well link the related ideas.

 

Strongly Related:

https://forums.ni.com/t5/LabVIEW-Idea-Exchange/Enlarge-the-Invert-Circles/idi-p/1023748

https://forums.ni.com/t5/LabVIEW-Idea-Exchange/Compound-Arithmetic-with-inverted-input-should-be-eas...

 

Related:

https://forums.ni.com/t5/LabVIEW-Idea-Exchange/Offer-a-Positive-Logic-Alternative/idi-p/1022834

https://forums.ni.com/t5/LabVIEW-Idea-Exchange/Negate-option-on-Comparison-functions/idc-p/3793254

https://forums.ni.com/t5/LabVIEW-Idea-Exchange/Shortcut-to-Invert-Input-Output-in-Compound-Arithmeti...

https://forums.ni.com/t5/LabVIEW-Idea-Exchange/Correct-the-quot-not-quot-symbol-by-removing-the-inve...

https://forums.ni.com/t5/LabVIEW-Idea-Exchange/Automatically-invert-compound-arithmetic-inputs-when-...

https://forums.ni.com/t5/LabVIEW-Idea-Exchange/General-Comparison-Operator-as-an-Express-VI/idi-p/12...

https://forums.ni.com/t5/LabVIEW-Idea-Exchange/Simplifying-Boolean-expressions/idi-p/1890963

https://forums.ni.com/t5/LabVIEW-Idea-Exchange/Invert-Option-in-all-Boolean-Terminals/idi-p/1281058

https://forums.ni.com/t5/LabVIEW-Idea-Exchange/Invert-signal-going-into-a-select-VI/idi-p/2224232

https://forums.ni.com/t5/LabVIEW-Idea-Exchange/Negate-input-on-boolean-functions/idi-p/1084159

https://forums.ni.com/t5/LabVIEW-Idea-Exchange/Array-String-not-empty-function/idi-p/3163821