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SDXC card support for cRIO 9031 Linux Real Time

Status: New
by Member Schott on ‎06-25-2015 08:09 AM

The cRIO9031 with Linux Real Time did not support SDXC cards. Only SDGC with a maximum of 32GB supported by cRIO.

For logging application their is a need for more than 32GB => use of SDXC cards with 128/256 GB

 

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Hello LabVIEW Users.

 

My name is Eisuke Ono, An Application Engineer at NI Japan.

 

One of our customer is requesting a function.

 

The function is to retrieve information of module fault from C Series I/O variable Node (Scan Interface).

 

I know that we can get the information of module fault through FPGA I/O node, but not through Scan Inteface mode.

 

The customer's application is embedded condition monitoring system. It runs 24/7.

 

So it is very convenient if he get information of module fault C Series I/O variable Node Error Output.

 

I agree his opinion.

 

What do you think?

 

Bestr regards.

Eisuke Ono

 

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For the use of a variator that generates his own clock and distributes it on EtherCAT, I need to make the RT loop synchronous with clock posted on EtherCAT by the variator.

So would require the scan engine parameter is in receipt of the EtherCAT clock.

This function is imperative on Labview-RT to be compatible with ability to manage EtherCAT variators ( Beckhoff).

Status: In Development
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At my company for all of our real time work, we are starting to use Veristand a lot. It is great that there are so many already available primitives on the Veristand palette within labview which are very useful. However, there is currently no Veristand primitive in Labview, that actually starts the Veristand.exe program itself. You have to use the System Exec to do it. I think adding a Veristand primitive that performs this function would be great.

Thanks....  

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NI Daq 6008 and Labview

Status: Completed
by Member anouardz on ‎02-26-2015 05:36 AM

hello;

 

For the NI 6008 card sampling frequency equal to 10 kS / s and it has 8 analog inputs, but if I will use the 8 analog inputs simultaneously, what is the value of the new échantionnage frequency for each input analog obtained during an acquisition in labview?

Status: Completed

Hi anouardz,

 

I think you might've accidentally posted in the wrong place. This forum area is for posting new ideas and suggested features for LabVIEW Real-Time. It looks like you found the right place though, in the Multifunction DAQ board: http://forums.ni.com/t5/Multifunction-DAQ/NI-Daq-6008-and-Labview/td-p/3095362 .

To allow expansion of DAQ capabilities from a real time PXI Rack it would be nice to be able to add a Compact DAQ chassis to the ethernet port and address it like you can on a desktop. I understand this is possible for USB connected chassis but not ethernet. 

 

This would allow an existing RT DAQ system to be easily expanded, or to acquire data from remote points without the necessity of wiring every channel back to the main rack.

Many of the features that are not supported on LinuxRT are things that one would expect not to work (due to the underlying technologies), but why no menu and cursor functions? 

 

The lack of menu support in particular means that most GUIs have to be customized to run on the target....even though Xfce should be perfectly capable of handling them in their original design... I was really hoping we could port some of our GUIs straight to the embedded GUI and replace our  industrial computers immediately with cRIOs...(the differences in appearances are easier to handle, after all we use system controls and take cross-platform variations into consideration already).

 

Now we'll have to (decide if we want to) spend time on customizing the GUIs.Smiley Sad

The new embedded GUI option on the new LinuxRT based cRIOs is great. It would

 

a) be nice to be able to access it remotely, and

b) with remote access *all* LinuxRT targets could support it, even the ones without a display port...I would love to use that on our new sbRIO-9651 instead of going back typing in the Bash shell...

c) Perhaps the GUI could even be embedded into the web interface as well :-O

 

Status: In Development

enhance access security

Status: New
by Member Vendelbo on ‎10-14-2014 06:33 AM

It would be good to enhance access security to also include program-control of cRIO's. As it is now you can set user access for a cRIO in a project by opening the Real-Time CompactRIO properties and set Allow/Deny access by IP. However, this only limits access to deploying settings and eventual RT applications on the cRIO. You can still control the cRIO (e.g. set outputs and, as in my case, control servo motor drives connected to the cRIO) from a LabVIEW application on any PC on the LAN.

This added access control could eventually be set up in MAX.

Many measurement and process control application run at relatively slow rates (<100Hz). Using SCAN Engine on the CompacRIO for data acquisition is ideal for these applications because you don't need to program the FPGA and all the measurement and control logic can be implemented on the Real-Time controller.

 

 

In many cases you want to process your data before you analize it. Currently you only have the ability to get the raw measurement data from the AI modules, so you need to add the data processing code to your existing LabVIEW program. It would be helpful if the SCAN engine could offload some of the data processing (ex. lowpass filter or sample average) to the FPGA and provide the user with already processed data. For example, this functionality can be added to the module configuration page:

 

SCAN Engine.png   

Add console to Linux based cRIO

Status: In Development
by Active Participant zyl7 ‎06-03-2014 03:10 AM - edited ‎06-03-2014 03:23 AM

Hi !

With the linux-based cRIOs the console ("Write To Monitor" ; as intended before working with VxWorks/PharLaps OS) disappeared.

It's only possible to have strings pushed to the RS ports or in a (not managed) file.

 

As many cRIOs are connected to the network, it would be nice to have the "Write To Monitor" console access through Ethernet port.

The idea would be also to keep the global functionnalities of this console : see the strings in the cRIO webpage (of course), but also keep strings in a managed file (max number of logs in a file, ...) to have a 'buffered' access to strings sent to the console...

 

In brief, bring us back the 'Console' !! Smiley Happy

Status: In Development

If you have an RT target set up with a startup application (ready to be deployed in the field), running a VI on it from the IDE should not change anything permanently. 

 

Today (LabVIEW RT 2013), doing this will not just temporrarily stop the VIs running on the target (from the executable) - as you get warned about, but also cause the RTTarget.LaunchAppAtBoot=True line to be removed from the ni-rt.ini. So the startup application will not be launched the next time the device is started up, rendering your device useless in the field. Why?

 

- We had an incident where we narrowly escaped such a scenario. The RT target was embedded into a cannister that was about to be sealed, but an unforseen issue made it necessary to run a special test on it, with a VI from the IDE. The startup application in this case provides the only way into the system once the cannister is sealed (no Ethernet access, just RS485), so having it no longer start would be a catastrophy. No one expected running the VI would actually change anything permanently. We tested it of course, and saw that it stopped the startup application (and so we loaded an image of the correct setup afterwards to be sure all changes were removed), but it would be much better and more intuitive if no such permanent and fundamental changes occured (if actually possible to implement in a such a way).

 

 

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New LabWindows/CVI editor based on eclipse

Status: New
by Member schddc on ‎03-05-2014 07:52 AM

It seems making plugins to Visual Studio has been abandon but it wouldnt matter if we were able to use a modern and full featured IDE.  Use eclipse as a base IDE and develop features on top of it including the ability to downlod and execute code to real time targets.  Developing an IDE based on eclipse isnt unhead of this is vxworks does with wind river workbench.

Hello,

 

It would be nice to had the ability to create more than one RT target in a project with the same IP address.

For the moment, if you try to use 2 same IP address, The LabVIEW IDE don't let you save your modifications ! Smiley Sad

 

You may say WTF !!!! The manu has so curious ideas !!!!

 

My need is for example to had 2 configurations for 1 only RT CRio.

 

  • 1 configuration in Scan Interface 
  • 1 configuration in FPGA interface

Or an other way to use multiples targets ...

 

  • 1 project linking to Version 1 sources
  • 1 project linking to Version 2 sources

Yopu may say this can be done by using different build specifications.

 

I will say yes ... But my need is to separate the two versions of LabVIEW sources !

=> 1 project/target linked to an autopopulating folder in version a

=> 1 project/target linked to an autopopulating folder in version b

 

=> So my need is to be abble to use RT Targets as "Target versions"

=> To be abble to do this ... i need to create multiple targets with identical IP addresses. Smiley Wink

 

Thanks for reading.

 

Manu.

Allow RT FIFOs to be of type LV Class

Status: New
by Member jarcTek on ‎08-29-2013 03:25 PM

I had posted this idea to the LabVIEW idea exchange before, but it makes more sense to have it here.

http://forums.ni.com/t5/LabVIEW-Idea-Exchange/Allow-RT-FIFOs-to-be-of-type-LV-Class/idi-p/2426726

 

It would be very useful that RT FIFOs could be of type lvclass as long as the class' private members are of static types (perform the same check that is done for clusters when you try to use them as the type for RT FIFOs).

I have just gone through a somewhat painful support process to figure out how to adjust something as simple as the analog channel scaling on a NI-9203 module installed in a cRIO rack.  Why there is no external way to adjust those properties, besides having a development system hooked up and accessing them through the Project Explorer, is a little baffling.  After going a little round and round on the support call, it came down to this:  modify your embedded program to include property references, where you can adjust the scaling programmatically.  That means I need to modify my code, rebuild the executable, email it to the customer, get them to shut their entire line down, put the cRIO in the "don't run your startup VI" mode, upload the new program, restart, then finally get their entire line back up and running.  All because they need to change the scaling on one 4-20mA analog channel from 0-400 to 0-500 units to match their PLC control system changes.

 

Seems like there should be a way to get into that configuration, maybe in MAX?  We can see the cRIO processor, but can't get individual module or channel configurations.  Distributed System Manager might be another place that properties could be adjusted.  Anything to make the cRIO simpler to support in the field!

Status: In Development

Working on more robust system configuration and management solutions: Point of VIEW-System Configuration Gauntlet Accepted

At any one time, we have several complex LabVIEW-RT projects that run behavior experiments for us, taking multiple channels of analog and digital data while providing a complex series of audio and visual stimuli.  For each project, there is an RT part that "runs" the Experiment and a tailored Host part that runs the UI, handles an Excel Workbook that specifies the various trials being performed, displays the data, and saves the sampled results to disk.

 

Each of these projects are developed using LabVIEW Project, and each LV Project has its own, unique name.  When we build UI and RT executables, we would like an "automatic" way to associate them with each other.  A "natural" way would be to use the "shared" information of their joint Project.  There are ways to get the Project name in the Host UI code, both in Development mode and from an Executable.

 

I would like to propose that NI provide a Property or something similar for the RT side so that the RT code, at Run Time, could determine the Project from which it came.  With both sets of code knowing their shared "ancestor", they could use this information to ensure they are talking to their proper counterpart.  They could also use it to "mark" data structures (such as Files or Folders) that belong to them.  For example, there could be multiple configuration files, one for each Project, but they could be uniquely identified as "<Project> Config.xml" (where "<Project>" is the name of the Project containing the VI, allowing the appropriate Configuration file to unambiguously be chosen at Run Time).

 

Bob Schor

Scan Engine: FailSafe value for output nodes

Status: New
by Active Participant Naity on ‎06-13-2013 04:46 AM

Hi,

 

I noticed there seem to be no way to guarantee the state of an output module controlled by a scan engine in case the RT Application (or the Host Application, depending who is controlling the chassis) crashs. With FPGA one can program some kind of watchdog setting back the output values of a module in case the RT Exe fails. With Scan there just seem to be no possibility.

 

This is why I think adding a FailSafe Value for a Scan I/O node could be a creat idea. in ase the RT application got aborted  or stops  without cleanup, the output value would not be random no more but set back to their FailSafe value. I imagine it could look like that:

 

failsafe.png

 

What do you think about it?

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rt strings

Status: New
by Member vaguy on ‎06-08-2013 06:45 PM

I would like a new string data type - a "rt string". There would be a property of the variable that would set the max. string size, and allocate memory at once for that size, similar to the way it would work in C. Additionally, there would be rt equivalents of most of the string functions, that would function just as in C, and would not result in memory allocations. This would allow (at least some!) string functionality in deterministic loops.

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