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hello,

 

I know this not a labview question but i think many of you have to use this reference.

 

The trouble i have is where to find documents relative to pt100 calibration  documentation up to date ?

 

i have formulae, now i want  to test if i haven't done mistakes manupulating all of coefficients

 

i'm looking for table of DIN 60751/A2  with 0.1° C accuracy between at least between -60 +60°C

 

and the same for EIT90 calibration with 3 reference points ie : water, gallium ....

 

 

Thank you

 

Best regards

 

Tinnitus 

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hello,

 

i found a table for 3 reference points calibration i just miss DIN 60751/a2  table

 

regards

 

Tinnitus

 

 

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Hello Tinnitus,

 

after a few research, I came across 2 documents, and especially one interesting one on your calibration issue. It seems like Swiss people got an accuracy as good as 0.02K with the DIN 60751 :

 

PT100 Calibration

 

I'm pretty sure you're french, so I guess that the pdf language won't be a problem for you.

 

Regards~

Eric M. - Senior Software Engineer
Certified LabVIEW Architect - Certified LabVIEW Embedded Systems Developer - Certified LabWindows™/CVI Developer
Neosoft Technologies inc.

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Hello,

 

Thanks for your reply but i already got this table accuracy of method is less than 0.02K but  table is only 1°C .

 

As i have differences of 0.1 °C with some values  for example with   157.33 ohm my code return 150,01305206°C

  and table indicate 150°C.

 

So  i would like to confirm with an external document.

 

Regards

 

Tinnitus

 

 

 

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for example with   157.33 ohm my code return 150,01305206°C

  and table indicate 150°C.


Well, take 150°C you get 157.32513.... Ohm that will round up to 157.33 😉

The standards (as far as I remember) only define the T->R function and that how you can get the resolution you need.

 

Do you have a standard better than 20mK??  Then you will get R_0, A,B(,C) for this standard and the only truth you know is the T->R function to check against.

 

I remember programming a Newton zero interation  to 0.1mK resolution for the R->T back in LV3.1 (and Excel) for my final thesis in a calibration lab.....

I only had a draft of the 'new' standard including the brand new ITS90 at that time. One of the draft translations had a minor error in the Type K EMV->T formulas , so I got in contact with the PTB .... 

(guess where I work know 😉 , however not  in the field of temperature )

 

But I would encourage you to contact your NMI (LNE?) and ask them 🙂 

 

 

Greetings from Germany
Henrik

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Thanks for reply

 

standard used is 5187SA  accuracy is +-0.001°C

 

yes i saw that , i also use the newton methode to calculate T°

 

I just want to be sure not making error  converting R->T and T->R  just

because of code .  i have already enough sources of error that adds and adds.......

 

 

Regards

 

Tinnitus

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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standard used is 5187SA  accuracy is +-0.001°C


1mK is the increase of your sensor reading by radiation , when the sensor is hanging in the corner of  a room (20°C) and you enter it 😉

I remember having problems getting u<5mK in a stirred liquid bath.....

What do use for reading? a Paar?

 

 

 

 

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not a Parr

 

an asl 17A  or an isotech uK 800 bridge

 

 

 

 

Tinnitus

 

 

 

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hello,

 

always woking on platinum probes

 

i don't find information about pt25 and pt1000

 

Could i use same coefficients as pt100 for or there are disctincts ?

 

 

 

Best regards

 

Tinnitus

 

 

 

 

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If not individually calibrated, use standard  A,B and C and change R_o to 25, 1000 or whatever value you find at 0°C  (a linear approximation to 0°C while using a water tripplepoint cell  (0.01°C) seems to be valid 😉 )   That's the nice thing about the (simplified) Callendar van Dusen Formular.

 

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