I like TiTou's new signature! :^)

[Ben]

Some more random thoughts....

After reading an article entitle "The Hamster Theory of RSX" the thought occured to me that laziness was a prime motivator for learning.

Stop and think about how much effort has gone into technology that lets us be lazier.

Eventually that left me believing that if I would ever develop artificial inteligence, it would require a machine with a "Maybe Gate" and was by its nature, lazy.

Next thought!

I have not liked these changes to LV over the years.

FIrst they decided to change my attribute nodes to property nodes. That was minor. 4.1 to 5.1)

THen they re-designed all of the icon and that forced me to re-learn what all of the functions looked like. (5.1 to 6.1)

Then they introduce these "I can read your mind functions" like auto-tool selection. This forced me to learn how to quickly shut them off! (6.1 to 7.1)

Then they go move all of my tools into a project thingy that I still have not learned to appreciate. ( 7.1 to 😎

But through all of these changes, I was forced to "adapt or die"!

Now attempt to connect the above:

I believe all of the b#tching that everyone is doing  is because you all are lazy (i.e. intellegent) and can sense that you will have to adapt.

Done musing,

Ben

[Ray.R]

Well Ben,

This "Maybe Gate" almost already exists..

After all, is there not an "I don't know" gate in fuzzy logic?  Know as Phonetically spelled me-oo  (miu) or some Japanese word.

😉

JLV (aka. The "Insane One")

[AnalogKid2DigitalMan]

Ben wrote:

"I believe all of the b#tching that everyone is doing  is because you all are lazy (i.e. intellegent) and can sense that you will have to adapt."

Sounds like us users just want to "Defer Decision" for now regarding changes in the IDE!

-AK2DM

[Ray.R]

Well said AK2DM!

😄

[altenbach]

personally, I think change is good and I have embraced most changes to the LabVIEW UI. For example, the new palette design is a definite improvement. I also love the auto tool!

LabVIEW is only 20, so it'll take another year before it is even allowed to buy alcohol here in the US. 😉 As with humans, this is a time for personality improvements and appearance changes.

If NI does things right, LabVIEW will gravitate to a more final and mature (and even better) form and the growing pains will be over at one point. 🙂

Looking back, many things computer related have changed to the better, even if these changes found resistance originally. Who would want to go back to 8.3 filenames? Commandline only UI? Singletasking OS?

[Ben]

Wow!

34 postings in two days.

We have been chatty haven't we?

Here is an update from support on that odd "Open LV 8.0" challenge I was facing.

"

I'm having trouble consistently reproducing this. I had one of  my team mates reproduce the error and a second who seemed to be affected by the issue. But when we tested it on his computer it worked fine.

One team mates sees exactly what you see

When I close it out from 8.0, I right click on the vi and see 8.0 and 7.1 in the open with  list.  I do nothing.
Open and close 8.2
then go back tot the VI saved with 8.0 and now see 8.2 and 8.2 on the open with list.

My second team mate seemed to have seen it on his computer.
but in his list when we check was 8.0 and 7.1
when we go back and open 8.2 and then close
On the list is now 8.2 and 7.1 as you see. So this computer is almost the same but is somewhat understandable since 8.2 was opened.

"

I'll keep you all posted!

Ben

[TiTou]

Hi Ben,

I'm having quite the same problem, as I said a couple of post before in this thread.

I really suspect the issue to come from the OS more than from LV.

On my Mac I never had problem when right clicking on a VI and selecting the LV version to use.

With WinXP, even using right click > open with... > Browse   I can't choose the LV version to open my VI.... this is insane !
I suspect this comes from the fact that the name is always the same (LabVIEW.exe) but in a different folder (LabVIEW X.X) .

If someone with several LV version on a Linux OS, could test this we might be able to confirm wether comes from LV or the OS

[Ben]

Hi TiTou!

You wrote "I really suspect the issue to come from the OS more than from LV."

I do not think I had this issue before I installed LV 8.20.

I agree the final problem manifests itself in the services provided by the OS, but I suspect the LV 8.20 install or running that did something bad to the OS to get it behave poorly.

"If the kids were playing nice until the other kid shoed up, but now they raising a rucus, don't let that inocent look on his face fool you."

Ben

BTW I have a new service rquest logged that some of you are going to love.

I'll post later in the event the suggested solution works.

[Ray.R]

I just discovered that there are clones in LV8...  😮

http://forums.ni.com/ni/board/message?board.id=170&message.id=206926

[Ben]

"... and the CAR ID is 41MGIPKZ "

The file association issue does not happen on all machines. The jury is still out on why this happens. Of course if we knew that we would half way to fixing it!

If I hear more I'll keep you posted.

Ben