Please don't supersize me!

[altenbach]

So I just wanted to quickly update LabVIEW 2019 to LabVIEW 2019f2 (not yet available in the NI updater yet :(). NIPM shows it as available update, so I did a quick click-click to select.

I have an existing lean installation on this computer because it will never interact with any external hardware and I don't even have excel installed.

So Why...:

... does it give me that smorgasbord if irrelevant (to me) suggestions, most checked by default, that I already skipped at the initial installation. Note that I did not even selected the "TDM add in", but it tried forcing it on me once more on the dialog. (EDIT, I actually had the 2018 version of that add-in installed. )

I think if I update an existing system, it should not try to add more stuff.

Even more annoying, at the end of the update it comes up with a license manager window, showing only items to activate that have nothing to do with my current installation (I only have 2018/2019Pro + a few kits such as Mathscript, vi analyzer, etc.). And note that there isn't even a "skip" button! (Well, there's the [x] in the upper right that fortunately does the trick ;))

Please simplify this! Thanks! 🙂

[CL_eisenwr]

I agree particularly about the licensing pop-up. We have license server and the machine & myself are both granted licenses, however I still get that pop-up. It will confuse some of my users.

[GerdW]

Hi,

the same problem for me:

Installing DAQmx19.1 for LV2019 also installs the "TDM Excel plugin".

Even better: no option in that "additional recommendations" list to turn that off. (Even went back in the installation dialog to check twice!)

Not even possible to turn off even though I don't have Excel (Or MS-Office at all) installed!!!

And also those annoying license request for development systems I don't have installed (like Base or any Debug Deploy)…

[lincolnlin]

The "Additional items you may wish to install" page contains the "recommended" (enabled by default) and "suggested" (disabled by default) package from the package you are about to install.

These packages in "recommended" / "suggested" by the LabVIEW Core package you are upgrading: ni-labview-2019-x86 : 19.0.0 -> ni-labview-2019-x86 : 19.0.2.

So it triggers NIPM to re-evaluate the dependency relationship of the LabVIEW Core package, hence the  "recommended" / "suggested" packages are shown.

NIPM does not record the selection you made when you installed an older version of the same package. 

I will ping the license team to see if they could provide comment on your feedback regarding the licensing dialog.

[SSPTest]

DAQ for LV installs examples that demonstrate DAQ/TDM Excel usage, thus TDM Excel is installed.

[altenbach]

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@SSPTest wrote:

DAQ for LV installs examples that demonstrate DAQ/TDM Excel usage, thus TDM Excel is installed.

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No, it not "installed", just suggested (selected by default).

• If it is mandatory, we don't need to see that selection and it should just install it.
• If it is required for DAQmx, it should install with DAQmx, not with LabVIEW.

[ck.x]

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@altenbach wrote:

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• If it is mandatory, we don't need to see that selection and it should just install it.
• If it is required for DAQmx, it should install with DAQmx, not with LabVIEW.

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LabVIEW shows TDM Excel as an optional "recommends", where you can turn it off.  But DAQmx installs it without showing you in the list of options since it is a dependency of the examples.  If you deselect all of the ADE support and just install the DAQmx Runtime, you would not get the TDM Excel plugin installed.

[altenbach]

Same (or worse!) problem again when trying to upgrade from 2019 to 2019SP1"

I don't want to change anything in my installed components and toolkits, just upgrade whatever is installed from 2019 to 2019SP1.

Now the list of additional components seems almost never-ending and most stuff is checked by default, even though I never used any of that ever (PXI, 488.2, etc.). Look at that scrollbar in this non-resizeable windows!!!

It is just bad form to use the opportunity of a simple upgrade to force-feed me every imaginable component again from scratch. I made my selection when I installed 2019 already! It knows what's installed and what needs to be upgraded! Nothing to add! Maybe we need a fifth button: [Select based on current install].

[altenbach]

Suffice to say, I canceled out of the upgrade because I don't have spare time and the mood to deal with this enormous manual task. 😞

[instrumento]

When I see The Knight of NI complaining about this, it gives me hope that someone would do something about it.

The not so easy scriptable NIPM, ISOs/Install.exe instead of the easily configurable extractable-zip.exe/setup.exe on all these 19.0+ updates have us (me) stopping at 18.x.  No more upgrades.