VBAI 3.0.1 CVS Inspections Simulated on PC then placed back into CVS with Adjustments Problems

[scott_7723]

I was curious if I was doing something wrong with regards to loading an inspection to a PC from the CVS, then saving an inspection back to a cvs using VBAI 3.0.1 while it is still running another inspection using VBAI 3.0.1. 

I have used VBAI 2.6.1 and earlier versions and it was so easy... I would copy the VBAI product file from the ftp of the CVS, import the product inspection into VBAI on my PC and add a simple Simulate Acquisition step after each Acquire Image step.  I would run all captured failure images to see why certain parts were failing, make the adjustments as necessary, then remove the Simulate Acquisition step(s) that were added, then I would save it to my products file on PC, copy it to the CVS via ftp site, and then stop the currently running program running on CVS and play the recently added one via the VBAI Inspection Mode screen.  Down time=5 seconds tops.  All worked well.  Why this isn't the same with VBAI 3.0.1 is beyond me; I'm hoping I am just missing something small here. 

With VBAI 3.0.1 it would seem I HAVE TO transfer any inspections from a PC to CVS via the Inspection manager, rather than by means of simply copying it to the proper directory via the ftp site of the CVS.  This means I have to stop the CVS, go to config mode then inspection manager every time I wish to transfer updated programs?  Otherwise if I simply copy the product file from 3.0.1, it isn't in the same file format, and thus the CVS doesn't want to run it.  In other words, in 2.6.1 it expected to see one folder containing the following: PNG, TXT, BIN; In 3.0.1, the CVS expects to see a folder containing a .vbai and .png files? or the same as 2.6.1?, but when I make adjustments to a program in 3.0.1 on my computer, it saves it as a single file .VBAI only rather than a folder containg the png, txt, bin, and the CVS won't play it unless I transfer it via inspection manager.  I have to be doing something wrong.  I understand that PNG files are only there if a template is used, but how do I create the proper txt and bin file from PC without stopping the CVS and going to inspection manager?  It is critical that I don't stop the CVS'.  I can't believe it wouldn't be as easy as 2.6.1 with copying inspections into the CVS via ftp.  Any thoughts are very much appreciated.  Thanks for your help.

Also, simulating a product file taken from a cvs running multiple cameras and I/O on 2.6.1 didn't return so many errors as does with 3.0.1 (such as IMAQ I/O errors).  Same with simulating it.  It seems to me I couldn't get it to overlook these steps no matter what  as did occur automatically with 2.6.1.  In 2.6.1, you got the one error saying an incompatible step, then that was it until you loaded it the next time.  But all would still be overlooked while simulating it.  3.0.1 doesn't behave the same?

[Brad]

Hello Scott,

In VBAI 3.5, there is a new feature to simulate a CVS. This will allow you to keep your 1394 acquisition steps and point them to a folder of images on your PC, and all your IO will not error and you can even add/edit IO steps, but obviously they won't actually do anything until you open the inspection on the CVS. Using the file manager introduced in VBAI 3.0.1 to transfer inspections from Windows to the target is the recommended way. It may not be as fast as you were used to, but there are some good reasons and some advantages. 

Hope this helps,

Brad

[scott_7723]

Thank you very much for your reply.  Would you please educate me and tell me how that is advantageous?  Furthermore, you say it is the recommended way, however, not the only way?  I wonder if LV 8.0.2 will convert it for me.  As far as VBAI 3.5 goes, I can't afford it nor to upgrade LV as well to the recommended 8.5.  Which is something I would need to do for adding in my own run vi.  By the time I could, VBAI 4.0 will be released along with LV 9 shortly thereafter, which will put me 2 steps back again.    So, for now, you can not inform me of a way that converts .vbai files to -->.txt, .png, and .bin?  I suppose I have to look deeper into LV and see if it could be done with that.  I guess I'll have to figure it out on my own, or just go back to using 2.6.1.  Thanks again for your time.

[Brad]

Hello Scott,

I may be able to give you some additional help. Could you please provide your email/phone, or at least give me permission to get it from our database so I can talk with you offline.

Thanks,

Brad

[scott_7723]

I give you permission to access my email from the database, you work for NI?  I would appreciate it if you could inform me on how to accomplish this.  Thanks for your help Brad.