03-04-2009 05:09 PM
Dears,
ok, if I use the Line Scan Camera What is the Cheapest DAQ Which will fit to my application (I found on the NI WebSite the PXI-1409, is this the one which fit to my Application or there is a variety of Products)
Best Regards
Ahmed Abdulbaky
03-04-2009 06:54 PM
Pick out the camera and lens first, then get the right frame grabber card for that camera. I suspect a GigE camera will be cheapest for your application when you include the price of the frame grabber.
I would contact Graftek Imaging and have them help you pick out a camera, lens, frame grabber, and lighting combination for your application. I prefer letting the hardware experts pick out the equipment.
Bruce
03-05-2009 12:13 PM
Hi Ahmed,
What kind of camera are you ultimately settling on? If a monochrome analog signal, then yes, then the PXI-1409 card you would want. If you're using a GigE camera, the PXI-8231 would be the way to go. This is assuming you're using a PXI system, of course...
I would highly recommend calling in to talk to your sales rep and they can help you spec out stuff specific to your application.
03-05-2009 01:16 PM
see the Attachment, this is a Proposed system to do the PCB Inspection, the Size of the 2X2 Board is 32x24 and the minimum component size is 0.5mm x 2.5mm, so Please check and advice.
as you can see in the attached image, did we need a motor to move the line camera through its area of interest ( the 2x2 board), cause the Line Camera will take Line by Line scan
so did you thinkn that the speed of the motor will be a Factor affecting our Process Time ( 2x2 Board every 2 minutes).
Best Regards
Ahmed Abdulbaky
03-05-2009 02:14 PM
It is much simpler to just let the conveyor belt move the board underneath the camera. The camera stays in a fixed position.
If you are going to use one camera, you need to have it pretty high above the conveyor belt to minimize perspective issues. Don't forget to double the resolution since my previous comments were based on two cameras.
If your smallest component is 0.5 mm, you might need a resolution of 0.05 mm depending how complex that small part is. If you need to check the orientation of the part, you will need more resolution than simple edge finding.
Bruce
03-06-2009 12:31 PM
03-06-2009 01:04 PM
The scan rate of the camera is the maximum. You can scan slower. I recommend selecting an encoder and attaching it to the conveyor belt. If you pick the right resolution, you should get the right pulse rate to match the resolution of the camera.
I would put a line light at a 45 degree angle to the surface so it lights up the line that the camera is looking at. Since it is at 45 degrees, the glossy portion will reflect at an angle and not affect the camera. Only diffuse reflection will appear in the camera. You could put a second line light at the other 45 degree angle to balance the light, but that probably isn't necessary.
In some cases, you can do simple tests like average brightness, line profiles, and the sort which are faster than pattern matching. If you are looking at the orientation of a labeled part, pattern matching is probably best.
I can't recommend a camera resolution without knowing the details of the smallest components. Assuming everything will work with 0.1 mm resolution, divide the width of the conveyor belt by 0.1 mm to get the minimum number of pixels for the camera.
Putting together a demo is not going to be cheap. The camera is going to be $3000 minimum, maybe more. The line lights will be about $1000. Other hardware is going to be $1000 to $2000, perhaps. For the demo, you might want to go with pictures from a low resolution camera, but zoom in so the scale is about the same you expect from the line camera. That will allow you to test/demonstrate any algorithms at the correct resolution.
Bruce
03-09-2009 02:59 PM
Dear Jeff,
we are always in contact with the NI sales Rep here in egypt.
we work as a team with him