which is better for labview - 2000 or XP?

[Conseils]

This may be a bit lame and certainly I have had 'comments' before but ..... I always install everything ... epsecially on pre-installed machines!!

Why, one of the things you find with Windows machines as a very basic issue is that the discs are really badly fragmented after the O.S. install. I find for best future performance of the machine that the best bet is to install the O.S. and SP then defrag then machine, then install the Apps, then defrag then machine.......

As a result I always insist that the whole installation is a controlled process.

Before I knew a little better about such things, my longest running Windows NT system was 6000 hours of up time. We had to take it down to install a service pack for security, so you had to reboot (you didn't get many fixes / patches in those days either). The machine was powered off for an hour, once per year..... to make sure it would restart when cold (yes it was an Asus mother board), cleaned and rebooted. It ran for four years before being replaced for a faster beasty. Mirrored hard disks, plenty of cooling, a big box and well tested.

Perhaps that's why I find that they perform the way I want them, by controlling as much as possible.

I don't propose that I have some magical cure but what I do propose is that as a result of the process I know what the problems are and are not.

I would use whatever O.S. people find acceptable, Linux, Mac etc. but my principle of detail and control is the one that I believe has been the most successfull.

I suspect you may have just hit the nail on the head. OUCH Well done.

Ohh yes and I agree with you on the motherboard, and .... everything else - I'm sure we'd get on like a house on fire.

[Ray.R]

LOL!!

Excellent comeback help!  😄

I remeber my first PC.. I real IBM PC.  Solid like a rock!  Seagate 20MB HD.  Also solid (back then).  Reboot???  Nah.. why??  😉

I did a long-term reliability test station. 2 years no downtime.  Windows-NT..  It was an industrial PC.  Expensive as ... heck... but SOLID.

2 years no downtime!!.  WOW...  can't say the same with XP.   

Believe it or not, most of the problems with XP are related to the Parallel & Serial Ports.  The additional security features... so they (MS)say..  

It is interesting to read about your defragmenting process.  I used to do the exact same thing.  I had one which ran Win-98 since 1999 until last month.  No re-installs.. no SP's..  just doing what it was supposed to. 🙂 

I used to do the same on the test PC's, back in the days that I actually controlled what (and how) was installed on the PC's.  What happened to the KISS principle with windoze?  Did the first 3 letters fall out of the window?  😉  Make it robust.  Add features only once they are proven to be robust..  now that's a key to success..  Oh yes..  and keep the processes alive to ensure that the robustness target is met 😄

JLV

[tbob]

help:  I admire your process and your persistance to making a great sytem.  If I were to create systems that would have to go into the field and be reliable, I would do the same thing.  But we're talking about home computers and single desktop workstations.  I find it very painful to have to perform all of these measures just to have a stable desktop.  We didn't have to do these things with Win2K or with OS/2.  This is MSuck as its worse.  We all know why Gates wants to be a monopoly.  Its because his software is lousy and the only way he can continue to survive is to squash the competition.  The guy is so rich and powerful that his company has been declared a monopoly by the courts, and nothing was done about it.  Its time to put an end to MSuck and bring on quality OS's.  I should not have to go through a week long process to install an OS on my new home computer.  And I didn't, I just bought a Mac.

[Conseils]

Now OS2 .... now your talking....

I remember the first PS2 in the company and the guy who got it was responsible for strategic planning!!!!!!

I seem to recall that subsequent to installing the some 40 odd floppy disks it was absolutely essential prior to running the system to install the patches which, now my memory is real hazy here but I think there were 10 floppy disks of patches. IBM had a different name for them, I can't quite remember it.

Still it seemed stable, reliable and was extraordinarily expensive, monolithic and as history seems to have demonstrated not the most successful Operating System. I only remember the problems we had although most of the time he seemed a happy bunny; so it must have worked reasonably well for him.

In general I don't really see the difference between a home system and one at work. I treat them pretty much the same. Yes the first thing I did to my shiny new HP Pavilion was backup everything, format the hard disk and install everything myself..... its true you can ask my wife. Now there's another rule I never allow the kids or anyone else for that matter to touch a machine that I built. You wouldn’t on a Rolls Royce, why should you accept unqualified, untrained support on a machine 1,000,000 times more sophisticated.

I don't disagree with your proposition but what I suspect is that you are not prepared to 'pay the piper' be that price, performance, facilitys etc.

Finally, as I recall the first serious mention of a virus that I recall - was on a MAC.

25Yard Swimming Certificate, Cycling Proficiency and Tufty Badge.

[tst]

I must say I agree with Conseils.

A properly installed system, one which doesn't have junk installed and uninstalled on it is usually stable, even if it's windows.

My home computer, for example, which runs XP home, usually has 5 icons in the taskbar (including the internet connection, USB disconnect, volume and antivirus) and less than 20 icons on the desktop and runs without problems - no viruses, no spam, no adware, no crashes and no slugishness.

The payment, in this case, is simply having less software on the PC. Instead of installing and OKing anything the comes along, the computer only gets what is needed.

[tbob]

Lucy:  you obviously don't have a wife and kid at home banging on the keyboards without knowing what they are doing (especially the wife).

[tst]

On the contrary, I have major opposition when it comes to the PC.

The only answer is: A REIGN OF TERROR! MUHAHAHAHA (how I missed that diabloical laughter).

[Conseils]

Hey you got the handle right........

Now do you know how I can change it back?.... its not that important, it's just that the question for a new user name popped up in .... I think I was in Germany at the time and I hit help more 'out of a cry for'.

My wife rebooted me with her slipper from across the living room for giggling to my self when reading through this little lot.thanks.

[tst]

Maybe you should upgrade your model to wife 1.1... (with apologies to JPD) 

And no, sorry, the name I see is "help", it's just that I saw the exchange in the feedback board.

[Conseils]

Well I may try to force it somehow, I shall be travelling again tomorrow and will try beating it up again from my destination.

Wife 1.0 (15 years in 3 minutes time) seems to have settled in quite well with no signs of an upgrade, anyway I did buy into the procedure and its' helish relible. with only very occasional reboots and extremely low maintenance costs!