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Missing conditional itteration terminal option in the for loop

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Hello, 

I do not know if there is a feature or bug but I am missing option to enable conditional terminal in a for loop. Sometimes it shows up as an option to select but then just disappears. Lately, I have not been able make it show up. Right now I need it but I cannot proceed.

I juggle quite a bit between PC, RT and FPGA VIs. My guess is that something goes wrong while juggling between VIs of different platforms.  

This is what I am taking about.

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This is from a 2019 LabVIEW.

 

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LabVIEW 2025 Q3 is not giving any options enable or disable it:

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I have tried restarting PC, opening up a new project but no success. Any recommendations? Does this option now needs to be enabled from somewhere deep in the settings? 

 

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Did you check under "Visible items"?

 

From 2020 to 2025 they have been moving things to that sub-menu.

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I did not! and that is it. 

I did not know about this.

Thanks a lot Kyle97330.

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I haven't (yet) installed LabVIEW 2025, but this would have flummoxed me, as well.  I'm reasonably sure that for as long as I've been using LabVIEW (about two decades), the ability to have the FOR Loop include a Conditional Stop was always on the right-click drop-down for the FOR Loop structure.  Why change it for LabVIEW 2025 (and, I assume, its successors)?  Guess I'll have to pay close attention to the "What's New" documentation that comes with each release ...

 

Bob Schor

 

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     Just went to the Web to view the "What's New" for LabVIEW 2025.  Could not find mention of the "hiding" of the Conditional For Loop in the Notes.  How are long-time LabVIEW Developers supposed to learn when NI changes a 20-year "feature" of a Block Diagram object?  [I should probably create a LabVIEW 2025 VM and see how easy it is to sleuth out this new behavior of an old friend ...].

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@Bob_Schor wrote:

Just went to the Web to view the "What's New" for LabVIEW 2025.  Could not find mention of the "hiding" of the Conditional For Loop in the Notes.  How are long-time LabVIEW Developers supposed to learn when NI changes a 20-year "feature" of a Block Diagram object?


1. Join the LabVIEW Discord server where we talk about these things with new releases.

2. The Conditional Terminal for the FOR Loop was released in LabVIEW 8.6 in 2008. So 17-year old feature. Yes, I'm just being pedantic.

3. While I understand it is undesirable for NI to change up the menus, that menu was kind of crowded and it does make more sense to be in the Visible Items submenu. This does feel more like a common complaint we have made to NI for a very long time that they need to communicate these types of things better, or just communicate it.



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@Bob_Schor wrote:

I haven't (yet) installed LabVIEW 2025, but this would have flummoxed me, as well.  I'm reasonably sure that for as long as I've been using LabVIEW (about two decades), the ability to have the FOR Loop include a Conditional Stop was always on the right-click drop-down for the FOR Loop structure.  Why change it for LabVIEW 2025 (and, I assume, its successors)?  Guess I'll have to pay close attention to the "What's New" documentation that comes with each release ...

 

Bob Schor

 

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     Just went to the Web to view the "What's New" for LabVIEW 2025.  Could not find mention of the "hiding" of the Conditional For Loop in the Notes.  How are long-time LabVIEW Developers supposed to learn when NI changes a 20-year "feature" of a Block Diagram object?  [I should probably create a LabVIEW 2025 VM and see how easy it is to sleuth out this new behavior of an old friend ...].


There are some new stuff happening with 2025. Some I do not understand (or do not get time to investigate) but seems like a change and some outright feel like a bug. 

Sticking only to menus, another thing that I came across is the absence of "user libraries" option. This morning it showed up but there are times where it just vanishes. I will log how and when it happens.Maybe it gets hidden under change visible palettes settings but when that happens, expanding the list still does not show it.

Note: My machine only ever had LabVIEW 2025 Q3 as fresh install. No other version was installed, ever. 

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@crossrulz wrote:

1. Join the LabVIEW Discord server where we talk about these things with new releases.



Will it be the first option in this link?

https://labviewwiki.org/wiki/LabVIEW_Community_Managed_Discord_Servers

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@Xonmyth wrote:

@crossrulz wrote:

1. Join the LabVIEW Discord server where we talk about these things with new releases.



Will it be the first option in this link?

https://labviewwiki.org/wiki/LabVIEW_Community_Managed_Discord_Servers

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Indeed that is it.



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Thank you!

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