Upgrading problems from Labview 8.5.1 to 8.6

[ttzvetkov]

Thank you Michelle,

Here is my e-mail: tzvetkov.t@neschllc.com

However the question is still open. If the two libraries are needed in Vision why they do not install at the time Vision Development module is installed? Or if they are not included 

in the standard Vision Development Module, why the library is looking for them? 

Additionally most  if not every of the VIs in these libraries have a VI with the same name in other vision sub library. If I install the two files will it be source for a conflict: i.e.. having two VIs with the same name 

loaded simultaneously in the memory.

Best,

Tochko

[Michelle_N]

I have just sent you an email - please check your inbox.

[ttzvetkov]

I have replied to the support.

Best,

Tochko

[AdDekkers]

Hello Michelle,

I have the same problem, what is the solution?

Greetings,

Ad Dekkers

[DjDaveNI]

Hey AdDekkers,

When you say that you have the same problem, what is the exact problem you are having? Do you see error -2705? Are you observing strange behavior with the IMAQ WindZoom function? Is the issue related to Preallocated.llb? Is LabVIEW calling for the Real-Time module? Or are you just having difficulties upgrading from 8.5.1 to 8.6?

Please be as specific as possible, with as many details as possible. Please include software versions, hardware model numbers (if you are using hardware), and a brief description of the problem. Also mention exactly what actions you take that generate strange behavior or some kind of problem. This will help us forum posters find you a solution.

The original forum post dealt with many small issues/questions all across the board, and without specificity, no one can help you out. Thanks!

[AdDekkers]

Hello Dave,

I am upgrading a big application from labview 7.1 to labview 8.6. Some of the dynamic vi's are using vision vi's.

In the programming environment the application seems to work fine (i wasn't able to test the dynamic vision vi's yet), but when i try to build an application some vi's in the Preallocated.llb can't be found. They are member of the NI_Vision_Development_Module.lvlib and can't be found on the harddisk. (NI vision 8.6 is installed)

I do not use any real time stuff.

If i create a new lvlib of the vision directory i have the same problem (vi's not found).

Thanks in advance,

Ad Dekkers

[DjDaveNI]

Hey AdDekkers,

Go ahead and reinsert your NI-Vision 8.6 installation disk, and run the installer. Be sure that you have Real-Time support enabled this time. After completing the installation, restart your machine. Now try to build a Vision executable. Does this missing file behavior still occur?

I am working on documentation to explain this behavior. Please let me know if this resolves your issue. Thanks.

[ttzvetkov]

Hi DJ Dave,

The installation of Real -Time does not help. Moreover it should not be an issue if one does not have purchased Real-Time. Anyway for me the missing libraries warning disappeared only when Michelle sent me the missing lib files.

Hope this helps,

Tochko

[DjDaveNI]

Hello Tochko,

The notes from your Service Request indicate that installing Real-Time support for NI-Vision will permit the usage of Preallocated.llb VIs. You even replied and stated that your questions were answered and asked for the request to be closed.

Note that you need not install the Real-Time Module. However, you must include support for Real-Time during the NI-Vision install.

AdDekkers – please reinsert the NI-Vision disk and ensure that Real-Time support is enabled. Post back and let us know what happens. Do you receive any error messages? Thanks!

[ttzvetkov]

Hi DjDaveNI,

I think I have agreed to close the service request. However non of the questions ware completely resolved. We just have found workarounds. Instead of upgrading 8.5 I have installed 8.6 on a clean, from NI software, machine. Installing Real-Time & Real-Time support for NI-Vision does not help with Preallocated.llb. The only way to have warnings disappear is to copy the two files manually to vision library  folder. 

The reality is that I do not even need these two libraries and do not have license to use them. The initial question was why Labvew development system even is looking for them if I do not use them.

I have kept the Preallocated.llb & Timed Environment.llb to make Pease with LV development system not of any other necessity.

Hope this helps.

Best,

Tochko