Clusrter Test Question

[mikeporter]

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Jacco K wrote:

Still, who would be really fooled by only passing a test without programming skills? 

If someone without skills is hired just based on this certificate, he'll be exposed as soon as he gets a real assignment. Then he'll either loose his job or be forced to crawl through the dust and learn programming after all. No extra hours paid, obviously . Then, perhaps those few multipleguess questions might help understand the complexity of Labview a little better.

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Who would be fooled? An unfortunately large number of managers. More and more today hiring processes are being driven not by what you know and can do, but by what pieces of paper you have accumulated. And as far as hirees being terminated for nonperformance goes - in large companies the paperwork alone to fire someone for nonperformance can take years and in the mean time LV's reputation is taking a hit.

Mike...

Message Edited by mikeporter on 02-10-2009 07:38 AM

[Ray.R]

Exactly what Mike says.

Managers get fooled by the fools who write gibberish.  They then get another job before finishing the project because they know it will never work.  That's when the managers get desperate and call in the consultants to fix the mess that the previous guy/gal did (I have never seen a bad gal sw yet - shame on you guys!  you know who you are).

That's why Certification means NOTHING to me.  I have fixed code from people who took all the courses, up to the Advanced level and boasted on their training, yet they cannot write a single VI which meets any of the recommended practice from NI.  What does that tell you??? 

Yes I do sound upset..  We typically have to deal with upset managers who no longer want to deal with LabVIEW because they hired someone incompetant who cannot write code but is able to pass a test. 

Unfortunately, I try to educate the managers on how to screen the good from the bad....  ... that's a long story.

Learn to code.  Learn on the forum.  Write code.  Experiment the different ways of writing the same application.  Get some experience.  Post your code and ask for advice..  Learn, learn & learn some more.  Become good... Then write some exam if you want to.. 

[Mellobuck]

I really liked this link:

http://www.inter-sections.net/2007/11/13/how-to-recognise-a-good-programmer/

I think I may have been pointed to it by another user on this board, but it is a good breakdown on how not to be a Manager who is fooled by gibberish. It is slightly harsh on Microsoft certifications, but interesting.

-Mello

[Ray.R]

Thanks Mello.

Excellent article.  Believe it or not, most hiring managers I have met could care less about how passionate you can be about programming.  All they care about is whoever is the cheapest.   😞  When will they learn.