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@RTSLVU wrote:


Yes, but the original poster also stated:

 

@ggregson wrote:

 using battery backup is not an option.



When people say stuff like that, I don't believe them until they give a valid reason.

 

Usually you find out the reason is "my manager says so" and it is a case they don't want you to spend a few hundred dollars on something to solve the issue and expect miracles that there is some magic pill out there that is free, even if you spend a thousand dollars worth of time trying to find it.

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@rolfk wrote:
.... But that requires you to have either two flash disks or at least partitions. Windows without anywhere to write registry and other file changes is pretty unworkable.

Reminds of a sea-story

 

Spoiler

 

There used to be a big oil company called "Gulf". I was specializing in disk drive for mainframes and VAXes back then. Gulf Life Sciences had two huge disk drives (1.2 Gig back in the 80s was huge) that were connected via unique disk drive busses, and disk adapters, and were backed up to each other each night since the files on the drives were too large to be supported by even multiple reel to reel tape drives (single files could not span tapes, and "zips" had not been invented yet).

 

So I was invited to help out when they started to have problems with both disk drives. I worked through the problems and after seeing the customer finally relax, I asked;

 

Ben: "So what is stored on these drives that is so important?"

 

Customer: "Ten years of dead rats."

 

Spoiler
Gulf Life Sciences was the lab that did all of the toxicology testing for every petroleum product they could dream up.

 

 

😉

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@RavensFan wrote:

@RTSLVU wrote:


Yes, but the original poster also stated:

 

@ggregson wrote:

 using battery backup is not an option.



When people say stuff like that, I don't believe them until they give a valid reason.

 

Usually you find out the reason is "my manager says so" and it is a case they don't want you to spend a few hundred dollars on something to solve the issue and expect miracles that there is some magic pill out there that is free, even if you spend a thousand dollars worth of time trying to find it.


Agreed, I was just throwing the only other option I could think of out there hoping the OP would see that a UPS or at least a laptop with a good battery is really the only solution.

 

Consumer versions of Windows itself are not designed nor intended for "mission critical applications", (I believe it even says that in the EUA) 

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ok i will go with Windows embedded i.e Windows10 IoT

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Only Windows IoT Enterprise (and not Mobile Enterprise) can run Windows native apps, which LabVIEW is.

 

And without the right hardware configuration it won’t really change much about the possibility to crash your filesystem on sudden power loss.

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I just think it's odd to spend all this time trying to figure out how to recover from a crash when the best bang-per-buck solution is to eliminate (or at least substantially mitigate) the problem in the first place.

 

It's like getting your DPT vaccine versus figuring out a way not to die when you contract diphtheria.

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My (old) experience with Windows embedded is that its not a plug and play experience but a lot of work to get it the way you want (work/time/money that can be spent on an UPS). And as said, embedded is not crash tolerant per-se. Yes, the system can be write-protected, but in what scenarios does that really help that you want to avoid?

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