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Save as with "open additional copy"

Either it's too late on a Friday night for me to be on the forums or I'm about to learn something new about LabVIEW. How does a file you create in Windows Explorer show up in a project if you're not using auto populating folders?
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Tim Elsey
Certified LabVIEW Architect
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Check my next to last message.  I thought it did when I opened up a misc. VI  while I had a project open, but I was mistaken.

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About how i can live with only a very few subvis open: well, the projects I work with usually from small to medium scale sized ones. It is rare that i have more then 5 levels of depth of subvis (and no, even my main vi's BD is not larger than my monitor, I do use subvis 🙂 ).

 

edit: and that value of 5 in my prev post was about 5 internet browser tabs 🙂 but roughly still applies to my opened vi BDs to lets say 🙂

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We all work differently, but at the end of the day when I go to shutdown, I usually have about 20 explorer windows open.  At the moment I have 14, along with 18 tabs open in one browser window alone.  As for VIs yeah it can get pretty deep, project exploer helps for sure, but I'll sometimes have multiple projects open, going to multiple instances for various targets.

 

When I google something and I'm not sure which link I want, I'll just start middle clicking every search result (which opens it into a new tab) and then go through them until I find the tab that has the information I want, and then middle click the not needed ones (which closes the tab).

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I kudoed your suggestion becuase I run into that issue often. I have to MAKE SURE I have selected the one I want before I start making the changes to the wrong VI.

 

Re:Drilling down...

 

I have a rythm down where I click back to the calling ctrl-e >>> Ctrl-w as I drill down. I do not like more than two or three VI's open at a time. The VI Hierachy screen is very helpful becuase I find the VI I want from taht screen and just double-click the icon and avoid the drill down.

 

Drilling down usually only happens when I have forgotten what I wrote or I am looking at code developed by others.

 

Ben

Retired Senior Automation Systems Architect with Data Science Automation LabVIEW Champion Knight of NI and Prepper LinkedIn Profile YouTube Channel
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@Ben wrote:

I kudoed your suggestion becuase I run into that issue often. I have to MAKE SURE I have selected the one I want before I start making the changes to the wrong VI.


Oh yeah don't get me wrong I kudo'd the idea, more than once I've opened a new copy, but then edited the wrong one.

 

I tend to remember the code based on how it looks and not just the icon but the surrounding code, so drilling is like a refresher on what does what.  Also I have the old style task bar where each window gets its own button, and mentally I remember what VI is what button (or around where on the taskbar) so finding already opened code is easy.  I stumble when I go to find something on my task bar, and I realized I must have closed it on accident and then need to either drill down to find it again, or drill into project explorer, which being less graphical is less clear to me.

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Not really related, but what bugs me somewhat that this save option is sticky, meaning that it is still selected next time I want to d a "save as". 99 out of 100 times I want to "save as" and replace the existing VI in memory. The "save (open additional copy)" discussed here is a rare event for me (mostly during debugging if I want to compare an old and new algorithm for the same thing.

 

I wish there was a setting to automatically revert back to the typical save option after I use it. It happened several times in the past that I continue to create new copies without noticing and next time I open the toplevel VI, things still point at the stale stuff.

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I actually prefer the sticky, I don't know why but I find myself doing the same operation a few times in a row.  Like when I need to rename (or move) some VI I realize I have several others I need to move or rename and having it remember my last setting is sorta nice.  Besides if you are doing the same thing 99% of the time, then it should say stuck on that setting 99% of the time anyway.

 

Also can we admit that Save As... screen is a bit complicated to new users.  Most people are just used to how Save As... works in most other programs, it creates a new copy.  Maybe it has something to do with seeing a dialog, with a decent amount of text and several options, when they've never had any other program ask them a question after a Save As (except maybe overwrite after a selection is made).  I know each of the options are needed, and you can explain what each is pretty quickly, but to new users it is a bit odd to have so many options when other programs don't.  I'm sure moving some of these options into other menus isn't the solution, and would likely annoy many developers (myself included) I just thought I'd mention it.

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@Hooovahh wrote:

I actually prefer the sticky...


Same here.

 

I have been exploiting libriaries quite a bit whcihc means that I am doing a save-As very often and 95% of the time, the type of save I want to do next is the same type that I last did. Wrappers around AEs are a prime example where I get one right and then start the cloning from there.

 

Ben

Retired Senior Automation Systems Architect with Data Science Automation LabVIEW Champion Knight of NI and Prepper LinkedIn Profile YouTube Channel
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Am using "Save as" option from the right click menu of that VI in project explorer. Without opening that VI.

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