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@Blokk wrote:

I am not familiar with business and licencing matters too much, but I feel a "tiered pricing" would make LV more competitive. So the license price would be based on the buyer's yearly revenue, or other metrics. Rich players would pay more, smaller, like family based businesses would pay much less. The recent cost of the SW just does not make it competitive to use it instead of other languages, especially if the project does not include or not many NI HW products (so no need for DAQmx things, etc.)...


Autodesk (a CAD company) offers their Fusion 360 CAD program for free as long as you're under $100k of revenue per year (IIRC). There are some hoops to jump through to make sure people aren't lying about it, but I always thought that was a great way to help people get started and "hook" them on their product. (Fusion 360 is subscription-only as well, which isn't great, but it's always been that way and the prices aren't crazy high so there wasn't a "switcheroo" feeling like going from perpetual only to subscription only).

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Another one leaving Labview for C#/.NET.

It was a good ride but I cannot risk losing all my code if I have to stop paying for the subscription. 

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@antonioatn wrote:

Another one leaving Labview for C#/.NET.

It was a good ride but I cannot risk losing all my code if I have to stop paying for the subscription. 


If the subscription model doesn't suit you, you can request a quote for a perpetual LabVIEW license on ni.com.

Given the currently high price of perpetual licenses, our sales development engineers will discount it for you, until we refine our pricing and packaging.

Ahmed Eisawy | Director of Test Software Commercialization | +1 (503) 453-9178 | ni.com
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@antonioatn wrote:

Another one leaving Labview for C#/.NET.

It was a good ride but I cannot risk losing all my code if I have to stop paying for the subscription. 


If the subscription model doesn't suit you, you can request a quote for a perpetual LabVIEW license on ni.com.

Given the currently high price of perpetual licenses, our sales development engineers will discount it for you, until we refine our pricing and packaging.


That sounds so shady.  Why not just lower the price?

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@AhmedEisawy wrote:

@antonioatn wrote:

Another one leaving Labview for C#/.NET.

It was a good ride but I cannot risk losing all my code if I have to stop paying for the subscription. 


If the subscription model doesn't suit you, you can request a quote for a perpetual LabVIEW license on ni.com.

Given the currently high price of perpetual licenses, our sales development engineers will discount it for you, until we refine our pricing and packaging.


I've requested a quote to renew my 3 x LabVIEW seats (as perpetual licenses) twice now in the UK and received no response.
 

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Probably because if you lower the price by 10% it's across the board.

If you give some people 10%, some 5% and some are ok with paying the not discounted price, you get more money.

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@AeroSoul wrote:

Probably because if you lower the price by 10% it's across the board.

If you give some people 10%, some 5% and some are ok with paying the not discounted price, you get more money.


I know everyone is a case by case basis. But we have been presented with SIGNIFICANTLY more discount. I'm unsure what NI's motivation was but we are grateful, and likely will get some new perpetual licenses, then reevaluate it next year.

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Is my understanding that you haven't defined the price yet ? 

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@billko wrote:

@AhmedEisawy wrote:

@antonioatn wrote:

Another one leaving Labview for C#/.NET.

It was a good ride but I cannot risk losing all my code if I have to stop paying for the subscription. 


If the subscription model doesn't suit you, you can request a quote for a perpetual LabVIEW license on ni.com.

Given the currently high price of perpetual licenses, our sales development engineers will discount it for you, until we refine our pricing and packaging.


That sounds so shady.  Why not just lower the price?


Exactly.  Who expects to have to haggle with NI for the best price on a perpetual license?

 

My fist quote did not have a discount, so now I will have to go back and try to see if they offer a different price.  I am not expecting much since we do not have many perpetual licenses. 

 

It feels like I am trying to buy a car and have to haggle for the best price and hope for the best.

 

 

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@AhmedEisawy wrote:

@antonioatn wrote:

Another one leaving Labview for C#/.NET.

It was a good ride but I cannot risk losing all my code if I have to stop paying for the subscription. 


If the subscription model doesn't suit you, you can request a quote for a perpetual LabVIEW license on ni.com.

Given the currently high price of perpetual licenses, our sales development engineers will discount it for you, until we refine our pricing and packaging.


That sounds so shady.  Why not just lower the price?


As I explained before, it's not just lower the price. We received feedback from our customers across the board and we're working on making some adjustments to accommodate the various needs. We're using the discounting option for now to learn more about price points with needs to help us make the right adjustments moving forward.

Ahmed Eisawy | Director of Test Software Commercialization | +1 (503) 453-9178 | ni.com
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