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Restore High Contrast Icons

For those of you who haven't signed up yet, you should go and have a look at the Next Generation LabVIEW Features Technology Preview (a mouthful, but in short, it is a UI and Development Environment demonstration version of what NI is cooking up for future versions of LabVIEW). There are some cool things and some downright awful ones.

One of them has been sneaking its ugly neck in LabVIEW 2016: reduced contrast. I am (my eyes) getting tired of it. A few examples of the changes introduced in 2016 are shown below:

 

2015:

Screen Shot 2016-10-29 at 10.10.59.png

2016:

Screen Shot 2016-10-29 at 10.12.28.png

 

Considering that the trend is for displays to not increase that much in size but increase in resolution, we have now to factors to fight against: the reduction in size AND the reduction in contrast. I won't mention laptop displays going in economy mode and reducing their luminosity, but the point is that it is making LabVIEW even more difficult and unengaging to use. Way to go to loose any chance to attract new users, and run the risk to loose old timers due to added eye strain.

 

Put simply: Restore high contrast icons  and please, do not go ahead with the washed out IDE and UI objects showcased in Tech Preview.

 

 

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Trusted Enthusiast
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I was asked by NI (in a personal message) to explain why I felt the contrast was low, because the designers at NI basically don't believe there is an issue, or if there is one, this is one of display contrast settings, personal preference or whatever else, but not something that is related to the new design decision.

In other words, negative feedback is negative, it is not feedback.

At some point people vote. As far as LabVIEW is concerned, I guess "buy" (or don't in this case) is the equivalent.

Feedback all the same.

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Hey X,

 

Thank you for the information regarding NI's concern for your opinion.  I think LV developers have realized this and it may be the reason for so few kudos when the idea is about negative changes.

 

Based on your original post of this problem, I delayed moving to LV2016 but finally had to install it this week.  In addition to the washed out icons, I was disappointed by all the extra spacing added to the palettes; another change for the sake of change.  I don't expect NI to care, but posted my suggestion to eliminate the space or give us an option to set it back to condensed spacing.

Systems Engineering
LabVIEW 5.0 - 2016
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I asked our designers to contact X (and other users) specifically because we did believe there was an issue. X provided details about his experience. After that, we re-evaluated our decision. We rechecked the colors on multiple monitors. We had people of various ages look at screenshots. And we tested the images with various pro tools built around surveys of large numbers of people to check for good contrast. The result: we decided to leave the colors as they stand.

 

We did not ignore X's feedback. We listened to the feedback and then made an informed decision. As much as possible, we try to make our decisions based on data, and this is where the data leads us. Any UI change that we make will help some users and hurt others. Our goal is to help more than we hinder. We know from experience that more negative opinions will tend to show up on online forums, and we take that into account, but we do try to accommodate as wide a range of users as possible.

 

In theory, we could create a Tools>>Options setting to cover this. It is software -- we can do anything. Doing so takes time away from other development projects. This would not be a simple color replace. Many of our images are pre-rendered resources, so we would need to code in ways to choose different images depending upon the setting. At this time, we do not believe this is a sufficiently wide-spread issue to warrant that investment.

 

We do listen to feedback, positive and negative. We are open to changing course when the data warrants.

 

For anyone else having this issue, please make sure your monitors are calibrated. The lower-contrast that LabVIEW is using is also used by many other programs, including the Windows OS, and calibrating your monitor may help with a wide-range of visibility issues. On Windows, you can search the start menu for "Calibrate display colors".

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Trusted Enthusiast

Add to the list of friendly advices: go get your vision checked by an optometrist, buy a new pair of glasses, have an ergonomist come and redesign the lights in your office, drink some kool-aid...

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There something looks odd to me, the Pi constant has a white background in the 2016 LabVIEW example below. In my 2016 it's like your 2015 example. Maybe there is something else going on?

 

 


X. wrote:

For those of you who haven't signed up yet, you should go and have a look at the Next Generation LabVIEW Features Technology Preview (a mouthful, but in short, it is a UI and Development Environment demonstration version of what NI is cooking up for future versions of LabVIEW). There are some cool things and some downright awful ones.

One of them has been sneaking its ugly neck in LabVIEW 2016: reduced contrast. I am (my eyes) getting tired of it. A few examples of the changes introduced in 2016 are shown below:

 

2015:

Screen Shot 2016-10-29 at 10.10.59.png

2016:

Screen Shot 2016-10-29 at 10.12.28.png

 

Considering that the trend is for displays to not increase that much in size but increase in resolution, we have now to factors to fight against: the reduction in size AND the reduction in contrast. I won't mention laptop displays going in economy mode and reducing their luminosity, but the point is that it is making LabVIEW even more difficult and unengaging to use. Way to go to loose any chance to attract new users, and run the risk to loose old timers due to added eye strain.

 

Put simply: Restore high contrast icons  and please, do not go ahead with the washed out IDE and UI objects showcased in Tech Preview.

 

 


 

André Manzolli

Engenheiro Mecânico
Certified LabVIEW Developer - CLD
LabVIEW Champion