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05-02-2011 02:13 AM

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I have a force and dispacement values in excel. I want to calulate the hystresis of this.

How can i do this through VBS?? I dont have time channel in that, How can i create it and find the hystresis?

Rsh

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05-02-2011 07:59 AM

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Hi RSH,

I assume you mean you want to calculate the inclosed area between the forward and the reverse parts of the Force-Displacement curve, right? In that case you calculate the integral of each and subtract the reverse result from the forward result. You can call ChnIntegrate() in VBScript to run the DIAdem integration function from the ANALYSIS panel, then you can call Sum=CCh(IntegralChannel, 4) in VBScript to return the sum of each resulting integration channel. Finally, subtract the reverse integration sum from the forward integration sum.

Brad Turpin

DIAdem Product Support Engineer

National Instruments

05-02-2011 08:35 AM

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Hi RSH,

Ignore the above, I wasn't thinking clearly. I banged out a quick data set and tried it out, and it turns out to be much simpler-- you just need to calculated the integral channel and look at the last value in the channel, like this:

i = 1 ' GroupIndex Call GroupDefaultSet(i) DispCh = CNo("[" & i & "]/Displacement") ForceCh = CNo("[" & i & "]/Force") IntCh = CNo("[" & i & "]/Integral") IF IntCh > 0 THEN Call ChnDel(IntCh) Call GroupDefaultSet(i) Call ChnIntegrate(DispCh, ForceCh, "/Integral") IntCh = CNo("[" & "]/Integral") Integral = ChDX(ChnLength(IntCh), IntCh) Call ChnPropValSet(IntCh, "Integral", Integral)

The calculated area is put in the "Integral" property of the "Integral" channel in the same group as the "Displacement" and "Force" channels. In the example I'm attaching, I split the raw hysteresis curve (both forward and return) into its two components and calculated the integral of each, just to make sure that the different in their integrals really was the same as the net integral of the raw data curve-- and it was.

Brad Turpin

DIAdem Product Support Engineer

National Instruments

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08-27-2015 04:09 PM

05-02-2011 08:43 AM

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Hi Again RSH,

This example is more visual but contains about the same content.

In case it helps,

Brad Turpin

DIAdem Product Support Engineer

National Instruments

05-03-2011 02:55 AM

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Hi Brad,

thats great. This is what i wanted from my data.

I did the same way as u did for my data.

Step 1: I load my excel data from navigator, using step1 and step 2 exel import wizard

step 2: I created a sample.tdm file by creating as group 1: Both : force

Disp

Integrated

Same for other 2 groups, forward and backward

Step 3: I copied the data from strating till row 746 where the data is 11300 and 84.4 in forward group and integrated.

Step 4: copied data from row 747 till end of disp and force to backward group and integrated.

Step 5: When i change the name of tdm file in your script and run that with modified channel names in .tdv the hystersis curve is coming for me.

Can u help me in automating this.

RSH

05-03-2011 08:14 AM

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Hi RSH,

You don't need to create the Forward and Return groups in the Data Portal, I just did that to double-check that I got the same answer. All you need is the Both group with all the data in it.

Do you need help automating loading your entire data set with the Excel Import Wizard?

Brad Turpin

DIAdem Product Support Engineer

National Instrumets

05-03-2011 09:15 AM

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Hi Brad,

Yes I need the script to automate this.

I have done it in excel manually. I am sending it in attachment. comments are attached for reference in excel.

I want to automate the same in Diadem. So that each time my force data is loaded(varies) vs position/Displacement which is always the same(constant), it should calculate the area under that curve.

rsh

11-30-2011 12:17 AM

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Hello everyone,

I have a hysterisis loop as a waveform and I want to calculate the area of the hysterisis loop. How do I do that?

I'd appreciate it so much, if anyone could help me.

Thanks,

Julian Samangun

12-06-2011 04:58 PM

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Hi Julian,

Does your hysteresis loop contain exactly one cycle, or does it contain multiple cycles? If it contains exactly 1 cycle, then you can use the Integrate function in the ANALYSIS panel and look at the last value in the channel it creates. If your waveform channel contains multiple hysteresis loops, then you will need and explicit X channel in order for the integral to work out correctly.

Brad Turpin

DIAdem Product Support Engineer

National Instruments

12-06-2011 10:44 PM

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Hi Brad,

Thanks for the reply. Could you please elaborate more on that, because my hysteresis loop consists of 3 cycles of sine waveform of each attribute.

Thank you.