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A Localization Configuration Editor for LabVIEW

Christian_L — Mon, 16 Dec 2024 16:13:01 GMT

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Re: A Localization Configuration Editor for LabVIEW

tst — Wed, 29 Jul 2009 07:11:03 GMT

Why do you start these threads before the pages are available to the public? I've seen it happen a few times and it's kind of detrimental to your efforts, because I see there's a new post on the board, then I see it's an interesting thread, but when I try to look at the component, I get an error 404. Do you really think everyone is going to remember to check back in a week later? Why not wait for confirmation that the component page is accessible from outside NI before starting the thread?

Re: A Localization Configuration Editor for LabVIEW

Doug_S — Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:29:52 GMT

Its a chicken and egg problem - we need the forums to post the content and vice versa.

Due to the volume of reference design content coming on line for NIWeek, we are creating the forums in advance so they are ready to go.

Thanks for your patience.

Doug

Re: A Localization Configuration Editor for LabVIEW

tst — Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:46:05 GMT

The problem here is that you're shifting the load from the single person responsible to creating the page to all the users (because now the users who saw the post have to check back again and again until the page comes online).

Instead, since the page can be edited, why not wait until it comes online and then create the threads and add the links? Even if you have 30 new components, I assume you can find some intern who can take an hour for doing this editing even around NIWeek.

Re: A Localization Configuration Editor for LabVIEW

boyko — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:28:43 GMT

Dear Christian

Could I use the new LCE with a WinCE Touch Panel - the NI TPC-2106? I am using LabView 8.6.1 (including Touch Pane Module).

Before I found this new editor, I have installed Chinese fonts on the TPC-2106 and can read Word documents in Chinese. Unfortunately I couldn't deploy a LabView application on this target to display Chinese characters (they are replaced by garbage). In the development environment the Chinese is OK in all VIs.

My other (related) query is how to install the LabView 2009 run-time engine?

Re: A Localization Configuration Editor for LabVIEW

Brian_K. — Mon, 16 Dec 2024 16:18:50 GMT

Hi Boyko,

Could I use the new LCE with a WinCE Touch Panel - the NI TPC-2106?

Yes. The LCE is an executable you would use on your development machine, but the API to parse the resource files are simply string operations. I have tested it on a 2012 and it worked fine, so a 2106 should be ok as well.

My other (related) query is how to install the LabView 2009 run-time engine?

The LV RTE 2009 can be found here: https://www.ni.com/en/support/downloads/software-products/download.labview-runtime.html#359526

One problem you will have with using the LCE, is that is saves files in extended ASCII. Since LabVIEW does not support unicode nativly, I decided not to implement unicode support yet. I will be trying to do unicode support in the future, but I do not have specific timeline yet.

There is a Idea Exchange to support Unicode. I would suggest Kudo'ing the link: https://forums.ni.com/t5/LabVIEW-Idea-Exchange/Support-Unicode/idi-p/921449#M316

Re: A Localization Configuration Editor for LabVIEW

Stefo — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 12:25:16 GMT

I have a suggestion!

It would be great if we were able to set which character set to use !

Re: A Localization Configuration Editor for LabVIEW

Brian_K. — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 16:14:44 GMT

Please elaborate. By character set are you refering to code pages like for Unicode?

Re: A Localization Configuration Editor for LabVIEW

Stefo — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 16:33:09 GMT

Hi Brian,

I'm reffering to what you can see in Character Map, when you go to Windows Start -> Programs - Accessories -> System Tools. You can have a single font, but with different "Character Sets". Those Character Sets you can see when you enable Advanced View. With different character set, you can have ASCII, and first 128 Bytes are regular Western, and the rest 128 varies by the "character set". It is very similar what you can reach trough regional options in Windows (I know LabVIEW depends on the regional setings).

I don't think it is the same as Unicode is.

Regards,

Stefo

Re: A Localization Configuration Editor for LabVIEW

labme — Mon, 15 Mar 2010 09:45:55 GMT

Hello Christian!

Is it possible to use LCE with LabVIEW 9 Full Development System?

Thanks!

Best Regards,

Michael

Re: A Localization Configuration Editor for LabVIEW

Brian_K. — Mon, 15 Mar 2010 14:22:25 GMT

Most definitly. The LCE installer will place an EXE in your tools menu. In fact it was built in LabVIEW 9.0. The API to pull the information out of the localization file is just basic string parsing. If you want to look at the source, I just checked and the Full dev supports LVOOP and data value references so you look good.

To sum it up everything looks good.

Re: A Localization Configuration Editor for LabVIEW

labme — Mon, 15 Mar 2010 14:28:25 GMT

Thanks Brian!

Re: A Localization Configuration Editor for LabVIEW

sletrab — Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:20:05 GMT

Hello,

This does nothing of which I expect from a localization Toolkit.
It is just a user Interface to create an XML-File, where you group a word and the translations to different Languages. And there is even a csv-File a better choise. Should I send this XML-File to a translation office? Nearly no Concept to translate the visible words on a frontpanel to another language. By the way when I installed it, parts of it were locatet in LabVIEW 2011 directory instead of desired directory of LabVIEW 2009. And the only example based on additional toolkits, which must be installed.

So my opinion is: Do not waste your time with this toolkit!

Re: A Localization Configuration Editor for LabVIEW

Brian_K. — Mon, 16 Dec 2024 16:20:17 GMT

Hi sletrab,
Thank you for trying out my localization example, and sorry you had such a hard time. I made the LCE when a customer asked how they could localize in LabVIEW, then I found it so useful that I decided to publish it as an example for free. If you want more of a product, you should consider SEA's localization tool (https://www.ni.com/en-us/shop/product/localization-toolkit-for-labview.html. I haven't used it but it seems more like what you want. Just a heads up I'm working on the next version of the LCE based on feedback I received working closely with another engineer. Just some of my ideas:
(1) Remove all dependencies. No one seem to like installing more than one bit of source. THis means removing xCE and AMC dependencies.
(2) Export/Import to tab separated values (tsf) file. This allows the file to be passed to a translation team and then imported back into the editor.
(3) Complete Unicode support. All text will be saved as unicode. LabVIEW doesn't support unicode, but we can workaround it.
(4) Combine editor APIs and application APIs. Both the editor aand applications will use the same VIs for loading, saving, etc. Reduces branching in code.

If there is another feature you are interested in I would be interested in getting your feedback.

Re: A Localization Configuration Editor for LabVIEW

atum — Fri, 10 Aug 2012 15:51:10 GMT

I am looking to create resources for Chinese, Japanese and possibly Korean. I am assuming this sort of functionality is part of the (3) "Complete Unicode support". Or is there already a workaround?

Re: A Localization Configuration Editor for LabVIEW

Brian_K. — Mon, 16 Dec 2024 16:21:33 GMT

You can already do Unicode in LabVIEW. This editor would just help you organgize how you localize. Forr more information on Unicode in LabVIEW go to : https://forums.ni.com/t5/Reference-Design-Content/LabVIEW-Unicode-Programming-Tools/ta-p/3493021

Re: A Localization Configuration Editor for LabVIEW

andrej — Tue, 02 Jul 2013 19:40:33 GMT

Hi,

I tryed to instal LCE, but I get the following error (for both lce_installer_101.zip and lce_lib_installer_b.zip😞

I have LV2012.

Re: A Localization Configuration Editor for LabVIEW

Brian_K. — Tue, 02 Jul 2013 20:47:04 GMT

Looks like a windows installer issue, not specifically an LCE issue. What OS are you trying it on?

Re: A Localization Configuration Editor for LabVIEW

andrej — Tue, 02 Jul 2013 20:49:28 GMT

Windows 8

Re: A Localization Configuration Editor for LabVIEW

Brian_K. — Tue, 02 Jul 2013 20:57:22 GMT

Hmm, I just installed it on Win8 32-bit and it seemed to work fine.