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Johannes_T

Improve Breakpoints Window

Status: Under Consideration
by Member Johannes_T on ‎03-13-2012 04:46 AM

Summary:

Improve the Breakpoints Window, so that breakpoints can be more easily managed.


Description:

1. Change the Breakpoints Window, from a modal dialog to a dockable window (similar to the Watch Window). Debugging can be more easy this way.

2. Allow breakpoints to be grouped, disabled/enabled and edited in user defined categories. This allows users to easily collectively manage several breakpoints at a time. It also helps the user to logically group breakpoints, depending on various issues issues that he might be working on.

3. Breakpoints could also be sorted from a pop-up menu by filename, line, hit count, etc.

 

Breakpoints Window

Hi Everyone!

 

In these days, I have been debugging a complex application(almost 12,000 lines of code) and it was very hard to do a map showing the relationshing at least of some critical functions.

 

For this reason, I consider that a very helpful debugging tool could be to add in LabWindows/CVI, a window like the VI Hierarchy in LabVIEW; that shows the relationship beetween the functions inside all the module in a CVI project. This windows will show which functions calls a particular function.

 

Here, there is a very simple example:

Untitled.png

 

Regards!

Wolfgang

Improve UI editor for editing tooltip strings

Status: New
by Trusted Enthusiast on ‎08-01-2013 07:11 AM

Hello,

 

The current features of the UI editor with respect to editing tooltips are VERY limited. I am not complaining because one has to start somewhere :smileywink:

Instead I am adding yet another suggestion on this subject :smileyhappy:

 

Please provide the possibility to enter tab stops, see my comment here

 

Because this is such a modest request, please also consider this one :smileywink:

 

THANK YOU!

RobertoBozzolo

Improvement needed on "Attach controls" function for splitter controls

Status: New
by Proven Zealot ‎05-22-2014 05:24 AM - edited ‎05-22-2014 05:27 AM

Attaching controls to a splitter in the UIR editor can be a pain if the panel has several controls on it. I'll make an example using CVI example SendMail: trying to add a vertical splitter and attach all controls to it in order to rearrange the panel when the user resizes it. This is the original panel, you can see the vertical splitter in the upper right corner:

 

SendMail.png

 

 

First of all, if several controls are selected, they overlap in the right panel of the editor in a way different from the original panel. Here you can see that the decoration indicated by the arrow overlaps two string controls that I'm not able to operate on to select desired  attachment mode. This means that I need to proceed to attach controls in steps, hoping new controls added are not overlapped by previous ones. Alternatively I can move controls in the right panel to encover hidden ones, but this ingenerates confusion as controls are no more in the original position besides being a waste of time.

SendMail_Overlap.png

 

Second item: if selected controls are on the "wrong" side of the panel, they are all grouped (and possibly overlapped) on the closest boundary of the right window. See this example: Send and Quit buttons are only partially visible on the lower left corner of the right window and additionally they are overlapped (in the small box how they appear if I select one of them and move it upwards):

SendMail_Arrangment.png

 

 

I suggest that this function is improved with these additions:

 

  • Honour the z-plane order of the original panel when controls are selected for attachment and moved to the right side
  • Maintain original controls position when moved to the right panel. Consequently:
  • Have both scrollbars enabled in Controls on the Splitter window in order to navigate to the controls; at present only one of them is enabled, whether vertical or horizontal depending on the type of splitter

If you have, say, three controls called MAX_1, MAX_2, MAX_3 arranged vertically. If I select them all, copy and paste, the new controls appear as MAX_4, MAX_5 and MAX_6 but in the wrong order to what you would expect.

i.e.

MAX_1

MAX_2

MAX_3

 

becomes

 

MAX_1

MAX_2

MAX_3

MAX_6

MAX_5

MAX_4 

 

A similar issue occurs with assigning a group of controls to a control array, they always seem to be in the wrong order, usually reversed.

Sorry for the long message.

My proposals are at the very end of this post

In order to understand the rationales I propose 2 experiments

 

Experiment #1:

In C:\Users\Public\Documents\National Instruments\CVI2013\samples\userint
Open 2yaxis project

 

Here is the code of interrest (lines 131-145):

 

int CVICALLBACK ScaleIt (int panel, int control, int event, void *callbackData,
                         int eventData1, int eventData2)
{
    int val;
    
    if (event == EVENT_COMMIT)
        {
        GetCtrlVal (panel, control, &val);
        SetCtrlAttribute (panel, PANEL_GRAPH, ATTR_ACTIVE_YAXIS,
                          VAL_RIGHT_YAXIS);   
        SetCtrlAttribute (panel, PANEL_GRAPH, ATTR_YMAP_MODE, val);
        SetActiveCtrl (panel, PANEL_GRAPH);
        }
    return 0;
}

 

Set a break point line 141 (second SetCtrlAttribute())
Then comment line 141 with 2 "/" at the beginning of the line of code
Debug the project (SHIFT+F5)
Before the code start, the breakpoint move "automatically" from line 141 to 142

 

Note : This is "OK". Indeed line 141 is no longer executable so it seems reasonable to move the breakpoint to the next valid line of code.

 

When the UIR appears, click on the scale control
Once in the editor, stop the debug session

 

At this point you should see the breakpoint moving automatically from line 142 to line 141

 

Question : Why? While the breakpoint on line 142 is enable and valid , why does the breakpoint "remember" it comes from
line 141 and then "decide" do go back on this line?


I believe it has to do with the fact that CVI try to set the environment back to the state it was before debugging the code.
IMHO this is weird.

Indeed, at the end we have a source code with a breakpoint set on a commented line.

What is the value for the user?

 

 

Experiment #2 :
If you run the same experiment but, this time, starting with a breakpoint and a comment on line 142 (last SetActiveCtrl() function call)
then the breakpoint move automatically from line 142 to line 144 (return statement)

 

The issue now is that the code stop on the return statement quite often and not only when the EVENT_COMMIT is managed

 

Based on previous experiments I would like to suggest the following 

 

Plan A :


- During code edition, commenting a line of code which have a breakpoint CVI should disable the breakpoint (grey diamond). This provide visual information to the user.
- CVI should not try to find a new line of code where to set an active breakpoint
- Uncommenting a line which had a breakpoint CVI should NOT enable the breakpoint for the user. The breakpoint should stay grey. A single click on the grey diamond should enable the breakpoint (see another proposal I made about breakpoints)

 


Plan B :


- If, before execution, one breakpoint is found on a commented line
- Disable the breakpoint on the commented line (grey diamond). This provide visual information to the user.
- Try to set an new active breakpoint to the statement right after the current line of code if and only if :

a - the statement belongs to the same current block ( {.....} )

b - the condition (if any) is still valid on the selected line of code (this is already done today by CVI)

- If this is not possible, try to set an new active breakpoint to the statement right before the current line of code if and only if :

a - the statement belongs to the same current block ( {.....} )

b - the condition (if any) is still valid on the selected line of code

- Once set, even after the debugging session ends, the new active breakpoint remains active and in place

 

 

I vote for Plan B

Best regards, Philippe

I would like to have the possibility to store the uir-file not as a tui-file (old-fashioned ini file), instead as a xml file.

It has been suggested much earlier here, but obviously passed out of mind:

 

When using 'Go to Definition' (CTrl+I) while in release configuration, CVI tells that no source code information was found for the identifier '...', because 'Browse information is not available in the Release configuration'... (still true for CVI2010)

 

This can and should be improved!

 

And it might be a good opportunity to also add the reverse process, 'Goto Declaration', suggested here

Status: Completed
Introduced in LabWindows/CVI 2013
Wolfgang

Portable 'Projects' (Import/Export 'Project')

Status: New
by Trusted Enthusiast on ‎09-11-2013 02:56 AM

Hello,

 

usually I work on my projects on two different computers (home/work or development/lab). I would like to see a possibility to more easily move my project back and forth, say by providing two new menu commands

 

File / Import Project and File / Export Project

 

I imagine that the Export command generates a zip file consisting of all files required to build the executable (and a distribution) and also exports the editor preferences (probably without the window positions because different computers may have different screen resolutions) etc. The Import command then should load the *c., .cds, .cws, *.fp, *.h, *.prj and *.uir files, import the editor settings, adjust the library menu and load any instruments.

 

Thanks!

msaxon

Translations of CVI runtime messages - msgrte.txt

Status: New
by Active Participant msaxon on ‎12-23-2013 08:09 AM

It would be great if NI could provide standard translations of the NI runtime message file msgrte.txt in commonly-used languages.

 

Whilst we can get translations done ourselves, it is normally done by translators who have little knowledge of the runtime context so the quality is rather variable; also, I get the feeling that we are duplicating effort that may have been already spent elsewhere.

 

If it helps, I for one would be willing to pay for a decent translation.

Wolfgang

Improved DirSelectPopup function

Status: Under Consideration
by Trusted Enthusiast on ‎11-03-2011 12:29 PM

Even after using CVI for many years I still find the DirSelectPopup confusing, because it provides a file selector, displays files, and even allows to select files...

 

I would prefer an improved/modified function such that the DirSelectPopup only shows directories, does not provide a file selector, etc.... This should make it much more obvious that one is selecting a directory, not a file...

 

Thanks!

Wolfgang

integrate tooltips into GUI editor

Status: Completed
by Trusted Enthusiast on ‎06-20-2011 10:54 AM

Hello,

 

imho the nice tool tips feature provided by the Programmer's Toolbox leads a miserable existence, because it is extra effort integrating it into a GUI.

 

I would love to see the tool tips integrated into the IDE, that is, when editing a control in the GUI editor, I would like to be able to also set the tool tips text and if it is initially enabled, just like it is possible to enter a control label text. This would include moving the tool tips from the Toolbox to the regular user interface library.

 

Many Thanks!

 

 

Status: Completed
Wolfgang

Improved 'Edit Label/Value Pairs' popup panel

Status: New
by Trusted Enthusiast on ‎01-19-2013 10:56 AM

Hello,

 

building on this suggestion I'd like to see a more comfortable panel of the UI editor for editing label/value pairs, see below:

 

LABEL.png

 

Suggested changes:

 

  1. Add the possibility to dim / hide the selected entry
  2. Add the possibility to insert separators in the GUI editor, not only programmatically
     
    Thanks!

 

Wolfgang

Smarter popup menu in the IDE

Status: Under Consideration
by Trusted Enthusiast on ‎08-08-2013 01:58 AM

Hello,

 

right clicking in the source code brings up a popup menu, see below.

 

Some of its items are dimmed or adapted to the context. For example, 'Format File' versus 'Format Selection'. This is nice and as I would expect it for a context menu!

 

Unfortunately, there are some entries that are available even if they are more ore less superfluous.

 

For example, 'Edit DAQ task' shows up even if no DAQ is installed. Selecting this menu entry only shows 'This feature requires DAQmx' - so why not dim it if no DAQmx library is available?

 

The same is true for 'Edit IVI Specific Driver Attributes...' and the IVI library.

 

But also 'Recall Function Panel', 'Browse Identifier' and 'Find UI object' don't care about their context.

'Open Quoted Text' for example, does! (which is good)

 

So I would suggest to have the popup menu act more consistently and only provide commands that are meaningful.

 

Thanks

 

popup menu.png

Quite often I need to look at one project source code while working on a second one

So, I use Windows File Explorer, find my project of interrest then double click on the .cws file

In this case, CVI load the cws file in the running instance of the IDE

This is not really what I want

I would like CVI  opens the workspace in a new instance of the IDE (similar to what is done when, in a function panel help, you click on the "open sample code" button)

For what I remember I believe the above behavior is the one adopted by Visual Studio Express 2013

So far, I must remember to run a second instance of CVI first and then drag'n drop the cws file

 

Regards, Philippe

 

PS : drag'n drop a .cws or .prj should work on the CVI Welcome page

 

Currently, there is no way to access the historical data on a stripchart.  The only way to manage this data is to maintain a separate buffer and update it whenever you add data to the strip chart, which is inefficient and tedious. Accessing data is possible for graph controls using the data attribute:

 

GetPlotAttribute (panel, PANEL_GRAPH, plotHandle, ATTR_PLOT_XDATA, &data);

 Something similar should be implemented for the strip chart, either as an attribute in the getTraceAttribute function, or as a standalone function (getTraceData, etc.)

Wolfgang

support of Unicode character set

Status: Under Consideration
by Trusted Enthusiast on ‎03-18-2011 04:20 AM

support of Unicode character set would be most welcome

Similiar to LabVIEW, I would like to have a "save as" option to store all files within the prj-file to a new location (maybe also for store a cws, res all mentioned prj-files).

Would make it easier to handle over a CVI-project.

This would make it a bit easier to edit an old project without the issue of upgraded UIRs because it might get loaded by the wrong CVI version and one edits and accidentally saves it before noticing.

 

Visual Studio installs a helper EXE which launches the right Studio for any SLN.

 

If MS didn't patent this :smileywink:, it would be a nice feature for CVI (and LabView?), too.

Starting from CVI2010, the User Interface Browser and the Attribute Browser are both located on the right of the UIR editor in the Workspace window.

 

I'd like to be able to hide these windows when required: when working on small screens like when you use a laptop these windows occupy a lot of space even if you reduce their size at the minimum.

 

In addition, the ability to choose which window to display on the bottom left could be a good option: up to version 2009 the bottom left side of the workspace window switched between the library tree (source editor) and the attribute browser (UIR editor).

 

Ideally, while in the UIR editor I would like to be able to:

  • Choose whether to show some window on the right side or not
  • In case nothing is shown on the right, choose whether to have the attribute browser, the library tree or the user interface browser in the bottom left angle
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