NI-Scope simulation

[Chris Lincoln]

What does it take to use the NI-Scope library when no hardware is present?
I have installed the following chunks of software:

NI-DAQ 6.6.0
Visa 2.0.1
IVI 1.5.2
NI-Scope 1.5

In the measurement and automation explorer, there are all sorts of
interesting simulation options, but I can't seem to get anything to work.

I am using the GettingStarted MSVC MFC sample. The errors I am getting
back, depending on how I have fiddled with the MAX, are:

0xBFFF0011 ( resource not present )
0xBFFF0012 ( parsing error )
0xBFFA4001 ( driver simulation is not possible in NI-SCOPE )

Can someone please enlighten me on the steps necessary to configure a
resource for simulation which can be used by an MSVC application?

Thanks,
Chris Lincoln
ULTRAX, Inc.

[Michael Enz]

Simulation is not supported in NI-Scope 1.5. But it will be in the future.

How would you use simulation support? Do you want generic support, so a
program that runs on a specific device (such as the 5112) works without the
device. This would allow working on another aspect of the program without
the hardware being present, but the scope parameters would not be checked
the same as when the device is present. The simulation support could be the
same for all NI products, but it wouldn't accurately check if the hardware
supported the functionality being simulated. For example, we could allow
the user the program flexible resolution mode during simulation, but the
code may only work with a 5911 when you actually have a 5102.

Another option is specific support for each NI board so a program could be
developed without the device and would work when the device was added? This
requires explicit definition of which device to simulate and it would
accurately check inputs. For example, error messages would indicate if the
user attempts to simulate outside of the allowable voltage ranges or uses
flexible resolution mode when the hardware doesn't support it.

Thanks for your comments,

Michael Enz

Chris Lincoln wrote in message
news:388cb59a@newsgroups.ni.com...
> What does it take to use the NI-Scope library when no hardware is present?
> I have installed the following chunks of software:
>
> NI-DAQ 6.6.0
> Visa 2.0.1
> IVI 1.5.2
> NI-Scope 1.5
>
> In the measurement and automation explorer, there are all sorts of
> interesting simulation options, but I can't seem to get anything to work.
>
> I am using the GettingStarted MSVC MFC sample. The errors I am getting
> back, depending on how I have fiddled with the MAX, are:
>
> 0xBFFF0011 ( resource not present )
> 0xBFFF0012 ( parsing error )
> 0xBFFA4001 ( driver simulation is not possible in NI-SCOPE )
>
> Can someone please enlighten me on the steps necessary to configure a
> resource for simulation which can be used by an MSVC application?
>
> Thanks,
> Chris Lincoln
> ULTRAX, Inc.
>
>

[Chris Lincoln]

I would prefer both, but the generic-device option would be most useful to
me at this time. I have a PXI-5102, but have to share the card with someone
who actually uses the asset. I just need to be able to develop software for
the other person and get my system to behave in a reasonable enough matter
so that I can "work on other aspects" as you say. I would have access to
the real device on enough occasions to make sure I didn't attempt any
unsupported parameter values...

The device-aware option would be useful if I have written a solution around
one device ( such as the 5102 ), and need to test the software's behavior if
another device is used at a later time.

You guys probably have a better handle on the different scenerios than I...

Does NI-Scope work in with RDA??? ( I've made simple, unsuccessful attempts
at getting it to work ).

Thanks

Michael Enz wrote in message
news:388f6a84@newsgroups.ni.com...
> Simulation is not supported in NI-Scope 1.5. But it will be in the
future.
>
> How would you use simulation support? Do you want generic support, so a
> program that runs on a specific device (such as the 5112) works without
the
> device. This would allow working on another aspect of the program without
> the hardware being present, but the scope parameters would not be checked
> the same as when the device is present. The simulation support could be
the
> same for all NI products, but it wouldn't accurately check if the hardware
> supported the functionality being simulated. For example, we could allow
> the user the program flexible resolution mode during simulation, but the
> code may only work with a 5911 when you actually have a 5102.
>
> Another option is specific support for each NI board so a program could be
> developed without the device and would work when the device was added?
This
> requires explicit definition of which device to simulate and it would
> accurately check inputs. For example, error messages would indicate if
the
> user attempts to simulate outside of the allowable voltage ranges or uses
> flexible resolution mode when the hardware doesn't support it.
>
> Thanks for your comments,
>
> Michael Enz
>
> Chris Lincoln wrote in message
> news:388cb59a@newsgroups.ni.com...
> > What does it take to use the NI-Scope library when no hardware is
present?
> > I have installed the following chunks of software:
> >
> > NI-DAQ 6.6.0
> > Visa 2.0.1
> > IVI 1.5.2
> > NI-Scope 1.5
> >
> > In the measurement and automation explorer, there are all sorts of
> > interesting simulation options, but I can't seem to get anything to
work.
> >
> > I am using the GettingStarted MSVC MFC sample. The errors I am getting
> > back, depending on how I have fiddled with the MAX, are:
> >
> > 0xBFFF0011 ( resource not present )
> > 0xBFFF0012 ( parsing error )
> > 0xBFFA4001 ( driver simulation is not possible in NI-SCOPE )
> >
> > Can someone please enlighten me on the steps necessary to configure a
> > resource for simulation which can be used by an MSVC application?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Chris Lincoln
> > ULTRAX, Inc.
> >
> >
>
>

[Michael Enz]

NI-Scope doesn't work with RDA (yet). Thanks for the comments.

Michael Enz

Chris Lincoln wrote in message
news:388fc055@newsgroups.ni.com...
> I would prefer both, but the generic-device option would be most useful to
> me at this time. I have a PXI-5102, but have to share the card with
someone
> who actually uses the asset. I just need to be able to develop software
for
> the other person and get my system to behave in a reasonable enough matter
> so that I can "work on other aspects" as you say. I would have access to
> the real device on enough occasions to make sure I didn't attempt any
> unsupported parameter values...
>
> The device-aware option would be useful if I have written a solution
around
> one device ( such as the 5102 ), and need to test the software's behavior
if
> another device is used at a later time.
>
> You guys probably have a better handle on the different scenerios than
I...
>
> Does NI-Scope work in with RDA??? ( I've made simple, unsuccessful
attempts
> at getting it to work ).
>
> Thanks
>
> Michael Enz wrote in message
> news:388f6a84@newsgroups.ni.com...
> > Simulation is not supported in NI-Scope 1.5. But it will be in the
> future.
> >
> > How would you use simulation support? Do you want generic support, so a
> > program that runs on a specific device (such as the 5112) works without
> the
> > device. This would allow working on another aspect of the program
without
> > the hardware being present, but the scope parameters would not be
checked
> > the same as when the device is present. The simulation support could be
> the
> > same for all NI products, but it wouldn't accurately check if the
hardware
> > supported the functionality being simulated. For example, we could
allow
> > the user the program flexible resolution mode during simulation, but the
> > code may only work with a 5911 when you actually have a 5102.
> >
> > Another option is specific support for each NI board so a program could
be
> > developed without the device and would work when the device was added?
> This
> > requires explicit definition of which device to simulate and it would
> > accurately check inputs. For example, error messages would indicate if
> the
> > user attempts to simulate outside of the allowable voltage ranges or
uses
> > flexible resolution mode when the hardware doesn't support it.
> >
> > Thanks for your comments,
> >
> > Michael Enz
> >
> > Chris Lincoln wrote in message
> > news:388cb59a@newsgroups.ni.com...
> > > What does it take to use the NI-Scope library when no hardware is
> present?
> > > I have installed the following chunks of software:
> > >
> > > NI-DAQ 6.6.0
> > > Visa 2.0.1
> > > IVI 1.5.2
> > > NI-Scope 1.5
> > >
> > > In the measurement and automation explorer, there are all sorts of
> > > interesting simulation options, but I can't seem to get anything to
> work.
> > >
> > > I am using the GettingStarted MSVC MFC sample. The errors I am
getting
> > > back, depending on how I have fiddled with the MAX, are:
> > >
> > > 0xBFFF0011 ( resource not present )
> > > 0xBFFF0012 ( parsing error )
> > > 0xBFFA4001 ( driver simulation is not possible in NI-SCOPE )
> > >
> > > Can someone please enlighten me on the steps necessary to configure a
> > > resource for simulation which can be used by an MSVC application?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Chris Lincoln
> > > ULTRAX, Inc.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>