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LabVIEW Pros vs. Cons?


@Alessandro__ wrote:

The ICON in Labview are a total DISASTER.

1) time WASTED. the human langugage is descriptive BY DESIGN. An icon/gliph is CRYPTIC and not culture independent.

2) the space is too limited. 32.32 pixel, and even less because ofter I need a label on the top (for class/libraries).

3) today monitors are big, and some have problems in understanding these little stupid glyphs.

4) RETINA Support? HiDPI? LOL

 

Language is SUPERIOR to icons/glyphs.

Icons are for KIDS.

 

Those that doesn't agree with this, have a brain of a teenager or doesn't even know with is software. You choose. LOL

 

So this is a strong WEAK point of labview that hurts the platform in everyday work.

 

Either let bigger icons, or something else.

 

LabVIEW is a joke in 2015. NI should invent another tool to make code. Another IDE, another language, a mix of graphical and code.... I don't know..... LabVIEW after 25 years is a dead end.


Bless your heart.

PaulG.

LabVIEW versions 5.0 - 2020

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If you want to have a real discussion don't say such silly things.

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@GerdW wrote:

Hi Alessandro,

 

Icons are a lot more recognizable than text.

Street sign use icons a lot more often than text. Everywhere in the world.

As Tim stated: icon size is a limitation, but not icon usage itself…


Not to mention that most of the world uses pictures to communicate.  Highyl stylized pictures, but pictures, nonetheless.  (Think: all the Asian countries.  As an aside, I wonder what someone who only knew Chinese would say about the ease of use, LV vs a text language?)

 

And to use a text language, you have to know the English language or it doesn't make sense.  e.g., Why is a "struct" named a "struct"?  Because it's shorthand for a structure which accurately describes what it is.  In LabVIEW, I know what a VISA write node does because "VISA write" pretty much sums up what it does.  I have no idea what it's named in Chinese, but it doesn't matter.  For a Chinese person, the name is in that person's native language and is easy for that person to understand.  Imagine if C++ were written in, say, Swedish.

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@PaulG. wrote:

@Alessandro__ wrote:

The ICON in Labview are a total DISASTER.

1) time WASTED. the human langugage is descriptive BY DESIGN. An icon/gliph is CRYPTIC and not culture independent.

2) the space is too limited. 32.32 pixel, and even less because ofter I need a label on the top (for class/libraries).

3) today monitors are big, and some have problems in understanding these little stupid glyphs.

4) RETINA Support? HiDPI? LOL

 

Language is SUPERIOR to icons/glyphs.

Icons are for KIDS.

 

Those that doesn't agree with this, have a brain of a teenager or doesn't even know with is software. You choose. LOL

 

So this is a strong WEAK point of labview that hurts the platform in everyday work.

 

Either let bigger icons, or something else.

 

LabVIEW is a joke in 2015. NI should invent another tool to make code. Another IDE, another language, a mix of graphical and code.... I don't know..... LabVIEW after 25 years is a dead end.


Bless your heart.


Uh-oh.  Being that I understand some basic Southern US culture, this can't be a good thing.  😉

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While you are all debating apples and oranges, I sit in the corner and have a banana.

 

Cheers!

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Ben,

 

I can not wait to see your presentation at NIWeek.  Sound like an very interesting case study.  Let me know if we can help in anyway.

 

Jamie

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@Jamie_Smith wrote:

Ben,

 

I can not wait to see your presentation at NIWeek.  Sound like an very interesting case study.  Let me know if we can help in anyway.

 

Jamie


Paper was rejected!

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Ben

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The paper of which I spoke in my previous posts to this thread is now available here. As I previously mentioned that project was a Proof-of-Concept that had two development teams working on the same goal but the traditional team used C# and multiple custom built boards and the LabVIEW version used a sbRIO. I consider it a true apples to apples comparison between a team of developers using C# and a one man team (augmented whe nneeded) using LabVIEW. 

 

Other papers we have written can be found here.

 

Ben

 

 

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Always a good sign when you can write an entire paper about how well the race went while your opponent still hasn't even finished the race.

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