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Make window scroll bars reflect actual contents of window...

This drives me crazy...  I've noticed that if I have some code on my block diagram (or controls on my front panel) the scroll bars indicate that there is more stuff outside the view of the window that can't be seen.  It would be nice if the scroll bars only activated if there was actually code outside of the screen to be found.  Every time I see this, my OCD kicks in and makes me try to move my diagram to show the hidden code, only to realize that LabVIEW is just messing with me...

 

Of course an image is worth 1024 words..

 

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6 Comments
Proven Zealot
Proven Zealot

Ctrl+shift+alt+anything is magic -- it isn't discoverable in the interface, which makes it hard for a lot of users to learn. I like the scrollbars for their findability and accessibility.

Member DJed
Member

If scrollbars only showed existing code, it would be very difficult to ever write NEW code, like dropping new structures and such.

Active Participant David_L
Active Participant

What if the arrows on each end of the scroll bar still worked to move left and right, but the position of the scrollbar displayed that it was all the way to the end.  I've seen this behavior in other programs, such as Excel and it's very intuitive.

 

I think that combined with the Ctrl-drag and ctrl-shift drag mechanisms would have all the bases covered for extending code outside the visible window.

Active Participant David_L
Active Participant

How about something like this:

 

scrollbar.png

 

It shows that the scrollbar is active, however there's nothing out there yet...

 

Looking at my Excel inspiration, it does not seem that they do anything special to indicate that you can go further beyond the scroll bar.  Anyone familiar with Excel would probably be able to pick up on it.  

 

Finally, I think this hurdle will only affect the most beginner of users, and only the first couple of times they try it.  Once you realize "hey, I can think outside the box" it shouldn't be too hard to remember how to move out there.

Knight of NI Knight of NI
Knight of NI

What if the scrollbars don't show a slider if there is nothing outside the current frame unless we hover over it with the mouse, at which point the scrollbar will appear centered and 1/3 the full width. Grabbing it will allow us to scroll the current code just outside of the borders in both directions. Releasing the scrollbar and leaving the area will either cause it to remain visible if code is now outside, or disappear if all code is still visible.

Proven Zealot
Proven Zealot

Looking at my Excel inspiration, it does not seem that they do anything special to indicate that you can go further beyond the scroll bar. Anyone familiar with Excel would probably be able to pick up on it. 


That would be ideal. Add the kudos from this post tooSmiley Happy