Sorry, altenbach. Seems I was both unobservant and lazy minded. I had actually noticed you use photopaint, but completely forgot (I actually used Coreldraw years ago, but much preferred the competetion at the time (PSP and Photoshop). I actually searched google, which is how I came across the Ulead program, but appearantly I searched for free instead of freeware (that's the lazy minded part). Thanks. BTW, I actually made a quick modification of JP's VI to work on animating other VIs icons in different ways. I'll post it later. About your suggestion, great things are afoot, hopefully. I suggest you email Ben and ask him about our email discussion.